[HPlarry44]

Which is the BEST Red Dot for the 4595?? Will it Co-Witness with the Iron Sites? TIA

 

[RACHGIER]

The one that YOU can use most effectively because it's a matter of personal choice. There is no one red dot that will turn you in to a member of the Miculek family.

As far as a cowitness goes, maybe. What type? True, lower ⅓, FS only? Depends on what RDS you buy and how tall it is...

Did you bother looking at any of the 458 threads that mention red dots? Probably not...

 

[Delbert]

Welcome aboard. How the RD comes set up from the manufacturer is a personal choice. A micro will offer less FOV and many, depending on cost will normally come with a tall (usually called a AR15 mount) and also a very short mount that sits low to the gun rail. A 30mm or 32mm RD will come with a mid mount that might give a co-witness, and if you want a 1/3 witness, you might need a 1/4 to 1/2" riser to make that work.

Hi-Point carbines are an odd animal in how the iron sights work with most red dots to setup like an AR15 in which has a huge following in how most people set their RD's up to work as a more military weapon, but there's lots of members here, that if you went to the Optics area of forum, you'd find your answer from those who set their carbines up and what it took.

Myself, due to how long the rear sight mount is made, you will probably need to cut off the front half of sight due to how short the mount rail is, so giving you that fact, you might want to change your way of whether you want iron witnessing to the RD or just using the RD alone. But both options are doable with a little bit of thought.

 

[RACHGIER]

Welcome aboard. How the RD comes set up from the manufacturer is a personal choice. A micro will offer less FOV and many, depending on cost will normally come with a tall (usually called a AR15 mount) and also a very short mount that sits low to the gun rail. A 30mm or 32mm RD will come with a mid mount that might give a co-witness, and if you want a 1/3 witness, you might need a 1/4 to 1/2" riser to make that work.

Hi-Point carbines are an odd animal in how the iron sights work with most red dots to setup like an AR15 in which has a huge following in how most people set their RD's up to work as a more military weapon, but there's lots of members here, that if you went to the Optics area of forum, you'd find your answer from those who set their carbines up and what it took.

Myself, due to how long the rear sight mount is made, you will probably need to cut off the front half of sight due to how short the mount rail is, so giving you that fact, you might want to change your way of whether you want iron witnessing to the RD or just using the RD alone. But both options are doable with a little bit of thought.

WHAT?! You mean like this?!

 

[moona11]

WHAT?! You mean like this?!
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I still like that stupid Rd. They just work.

 

[RACHGIER]

I still like that stupid Rd. They just work.

The Mole got that one off me.

 

[Cynical]

Sig Sauer Romeo5 will cowitness without having to chop the rear iron sight.

 

[undeRGRound]

The Mole got that one off me.

And it's easy enough for a blind old Mole to accomplish 😜

 

[undeRGRound]

Barring that, one could buy a 4x full reticle sight from MONSTRUM with the pass-thru base. That means you can see thru the riser!

I think I also had to lower the front sight, and use a UTG rear aperture sight, but... ask again tomorrow 🎯

 

[backbencher]

OP, the best you can get is an Aimpoint. It'll run you more than the rifle, but you'll never have an issue w/ it - other than it fogging up if it was dropped.

I don't recommend it, but that is about the most money you can spend on a red dot, and it's really clear glass. I suggest you set a budget of what you're willing to spend, and if you post that number, you'll get all kinds of suggestions between that number and about 50% more - so you should really post a number that's about 66% of your true budget.

 

[KSR]

OP, the best you can get is an Aimpoint. It'll run you more than the rifle, but you'll never have an issue w/ it - other than it fogging up if it was dropped.

I don't recommend it, but that is about the most money you can spend on a red dot, and it's really clear glass. I suggest you set a budget of what you're willing to spend, and if you post that number, you'll get all kinds of suggestions between that number and about 50% more - so you should really post a number that's about 66% of your true budget.

I think a $400-800 Aimpoint may be a bit excessive in this application. I would suggest checking out some of the Primary Arms options.

 

[backbencher]

I think a $400-800 Aimpoint may be a bit excessive in this application. I would suggest checking out some of the Primary Arms options.

I quite agree, which is why I specifically said I don't recommend it, but it's damn clear glass til it fogs up. Holosun has excellent products as well.

 

[Delbert]

Primary Arms, HoloSun or Sig are some of the "best" of the budget costing red dot scopes on the market with features that cheap scopes won't have. Shake-awake/sleep feature, long 20-50K battery life, water proof to 3m for 30 minutes, night vision usable on lower settings. This is for their micro lineup w/2mm dot. Price between $150-$200 there abouts.

I have both a HoloSun 403A (first generation w/battery between scope and mount, whereas the later B-model battery compartment was changed) and a Sig Romeo5 that is newer. Extremely fine scopes for the money. Don't have any PA red dots, but have heard great things about them on other gun forums I belong to.

Many times you will find these models of micro 2mm red dot scopes on sale for some great prices of around $125 or less in pawn shops/private sales. I picked up my Sig Romeo5 (used) in pawn shop for $75 OTD. Didn't have the lens cover, but I picked up a universal bikini cover on Amazon for about $5.