Report: City of Atlanta Illegally Stockpiling Seized Guns

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by lklawson, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    As seen on Ohio Buckeye Firearms Association:

    Report: City of Atlanta Illegally Stockpiling Seized Guns
    3:00pm Wednesday, November 25, 2015

    The job of America’s brave men and women of law enforcement is to defend the Constitution and uphold the laws of their jurisdictions. It’s a tough job, and those who do it faithfully are to be respected and commended.

    But as movie hero Billy Jack famously said, “When policemen break the law, then there isn’t any law ….”

    Now, a disturbing report from CBS46 in Atlanta is claiming that city officials, including the police chief, are refusing to comply with a law passed in 2012 that requires public agencies in possession of firearms that are no longer necessary for official use to dispose of those firearms through public auctions.

    The report contains video of Atlanta Police Chief George N. Turner opining that compliance with the law would lead to “catastrophic” consequences. According to the report, Atlanta police have some 10,000 confiscated guns that they are warehousing, rather than disposing of as the law requires. The chief very clearly articulates what the law requires of his department and goes on to state, “The City of Atlanta has not done that.”

    Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed is also depicted in the report acknowledging that he is aware of the law’s requirements and complaining that it’s “very difficult for me to lead on this ….”

    Chief Turner reasons that they are not “defying” the legislature but are merely “in a holding pattern.”

    But as the report goes on to point out, the law is very clear that “in no event shall such auctions occur less frequently than once every six months during any time in which the political subdivision or state custodial agency has an inventory of saleable firearms.” In over three years, Atlanta has yet to conduct a single auction.

    Reporter Ben Swann aptly summarizes the situation as follows: “to say you morally object to the law and you don’t have to follow it… Chief Turner and Mayor Reed would never allow that same reasoning for the rest of us accused of breaking the law.”

    The NRA supported Georgia S.B. 350 in 2012 for the simple reason that it treats firearms like any other lawful consumer product that comes into the custody of state officials. Very simply, the law requires that guns forfeited or abandoned to public agencies shall, when no longer necessary for official purposes, but returned to their innocent owners, if applicable, or auctioned to licensed dealers.

    Another reporter in the CBS piece alludes to the city having to “dump these guns on the street ….” Under the law, however, that is far from the case.

    First, the law states that the firearms have to be auctioned to federally licensed dealers, who are then required to use the same safeguards in their further sale or disposal as they would firearms obtained directly from their manufacturers. Thus, to the degree the Atlanta mayor or police chief have a problem with what the law requires, they have a problem with all lawful firearm commerce.

    Furthermore, the law has additional protections to prevent dangerous or unintentional consequences. First, it does not apply if the head of the agency, or a designee of such official, “certifies the firearm is unsafe for use because of wear, damage, age, or modification ….” Also, despite the repeated mention of “illegal guns” in the report, the law does not apply where “any federal or state law prohibits the sale or distribution of such firearm.” In those cases, the agency has several options for disposing of the firearms, including destruction.

    Police departments and other public agencies routinely sell forfeited property to the law-abiding public, including firearms. Under the Georgia law, the revenues generated are required first to be used to offset the cost of administering the auctions and then to be transferred to the general fund for further public use. Why anyone would object to raising public revenue through the sale of lawful products (and in the case of firearms, through heavily regulated channels of commerce), rather than expending public money to store or destroy the material, is not clear.

    The radical fringe of the gun control movement loves to portray firearm owners as aggrieved insurrectionists, eager to take up arms against any perceived grievance.

    Yet here is an apparent case of public administrators using the power and authority of their offices to advance their own preferred public policy, in open disregard of the contrary public policy enacted by the peoples’ elected representatives. When the enforcement authorities think they know better than those who make the laws, the democratic system can quickly fall by the wayside.

    Simply put, that flirts dangerously close to anarchy.

    We can only hope this unusually penetrating report restores some “law” to the “law and order” apparatus of Atlanta, Georgia. We’ll be following this story closely and providing updates as further developments occur.

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    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  2. mej24

    mej24 Member

    When that Clerk of Court refused to issue marriage certificates because she "morally objected " to gay marriage, she was arrested. So these law enforcement officers are above the law?
     

  3. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member

    Or the lesbian judge who refused to do straight marriage ceremonies. ImageUploadedByHi-Point Forum1449103159.397350.jpg

    Or cities open defiance of immigration laws, etc, etc......
     
  4. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    Didn't I post this 2 weeks ago? :stir:
     
  5. lklawson

    lklawson Staff Member

    Didn't show up on a quick search.

    Gimme the link and I'll merge the threads.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk
     
  6. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    No big deal home slice. ;)
     
  7. Moestooge

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    I wonder how many of those confiscated guns have "disappeared" into the hands of corrupt government employees.
     
  8. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    You need to quit cutting the shine with kerosene, it's affecting your memory. :rofl::rofl:
     
  9. Rachgier

    Rachgier Administrator Staff Member

    I think TNT might be right. I could have sworn I saw this posted a while back.

    No, I'm not going to look for it either.
     
  10. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    Your just feeling sorry for him. NOT :-D
     
  11. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

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  12. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Good Article, KLAWSON!
    (HomeSlice ;))
     
  13. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    You know the junk is all that is left. Kind of like that Iranian guy I knew in Nashville back before Iraq II. He had a bunch of rusty junk in a closet at his store. I wonder where "Snake" is today...........
     
  14. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Was "SNAKE" just your pet name for this gentleman??? :rofl: ;) :D
     
  15. TNTRAILERTRASH

    TNTRAILERTRASH Supporting Member

    My friend had a carpet store. They gave him the name. It was a junk store, used clothes etc. Snake rented the other side of the building. Just a dirt bag. Last I heard he was working in a factory. I remember when some of his acquaintances got popped with $35K cash at their home. He was mighty nervous.


    He told me how much he hated "W" and I suggested he go home and pick up an AK and get ready for the invasion............;) He shut up after that. IIRC he had a little run in with the cops for smacking his American wife around. AFAIK he eventually assimilated and moved to Tullahoma.
     
  16. Branth

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  17. Bull

    Bull Just a Man Supporting Member


    Kim Davis offered to issue the license without her name on it.... That wasn't allowed.... There were also numerous other issuers they could be referred to. There's not much difference between the two.....
    But if you're more comfortable with sheriffs not issuing cc permits as they should, I'll add that too.
     
  18. Branth

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    Well, I suppose this is a DR thing. Maybe I'll make a thread there to go over it.