[napp]

Tried a search; but couldn't find a conclusive answer. My 1095TS is intended to be stored in the trunk of my vehicle. Is there any reason why it cannot ride around with a round chambered with the safety on?

 

[TNTRAILERTRASH]

Tried a search; but couldn't find a conclusive answer. My 1095TS is intended to be stored in the trunk of my vehicle. Is there any reason why it cannot ride around with a round chambered with the safety on?

Most states it is illegal to have a round in the chamber of a rifle. I can carry a round in the chamber of an AR pistol as it is considered a hand gun.

 

[SWAGA]

The Hipoint “safety” is not a marvel of engineering and personally I no longer carry a round in the chamber of my JHP.
Mechanism is the same.
I would never trust a HP moving around in a trunk even in a pouch or case.
Besides I’ll bet you a dollar you’ll be just as fast racking a round as fumbling with the “safety”.
My answer is no.

 

[histed]

Much as it pains me to agree with a liberal, Swags got it right. My JHP rides with an empty chamber if I carry it and the carbine is the same set up. Do what you want, but I wouldn't trust the safety in that situation

 

[napp]

Thanks guys. Your answers all make sense to me.

I hadn't even considered the legality of it...don't know what Georgia has to say about it.

I wasn't looking at it from the aspect of speed....but, thinking more of one extra round over the ten round magazine. Realistically, if the sixteen rounds of 9mm in my carry pistol isn't enough, I don't suppose that one extra round of 10mm in a trunk carbine will make a big difference. :duh:

 

[histed]

Thanks guys. Your answers all make sense to me.

I hadn't even considered the legality of it...don't know what Georgia has to say about it.

I wasn't looking at it from the aspect of speed....but, thinking more of one extra round over the ten round magazine. Realistically, if the sixteen rounds of 9mm in my carry pistol isn't enough, I don't suppose that one extra round of 10mm in a trunk carbine will make a big difference. :duh:

Extra ammo is never a bad thing. If you haven't already thought of it, maybe look at getting a 995 for the truck. Same caliber/ammo as the handgun and Redball mags for the carbine. They look...stupid, but they work and double your ammo capacity.

 

[HPlover]

Or maybe add the extra mag holders that attach to the carbine frame. I have not tried it, but it would triple your "carrying" capacity.

I vaguely recall something in the carbine owners manual saying not to keep a round in the chamber as well.

 

[napp]

Extra ammo is never a bad thing. If you haven't already thought of it, maybe look at getting a 995 for the truck. Same caliber/ammo as the handgun and Redball mags for the carbine. They look...stupid, but they work and double your ammo capacity.

I was actually looking for a 995 for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Then, I ran across this 1095 and jumped in that direction. Now that I've bought the HTA stock, I'm pretty well committed to the 10mm.

 

[Rufus Nathaniel REDD]

As a Hi-Point owner, I carry/transport my Hi-Point weapons...as a 1911 fan...I really like the JMB safety system...I trust it enuff to carry or transport a 1911 or any weapon wid a Browning safety system LOCKED & LOADED. I do NOT trust a Hi-Point pistol or carbine's saftey, that far.....Soooooooo, I carry the slide.bolt locked back...and the weapon empty & no mag in the gun....
If the slide is released...no harm no foul, and NO unwanted discharge. If the weapon is needed, insert loaded mag and drop the slide....gun is reddy to go to work.
Should the slide happen to be closed, as a result of the hold-open failure...takes
jes a small amount of time to insert mag and drop the slide...NO SAFETY to fumble wid...
I carried a C9 inna door-pocket of my DurtRango wid the slide back and loaded magazine inserted....over the course of traveling about...the hold-open DID NOT
hold open...I had a loaded round in the chamber and NO SAFETY ON....Lesson learned...cheeply...so NOW no loaded mags in the weapon...
Thats my 2-cents plain...werth wat it cost you...

REDD

 

[ajole]

My state let’s you carry whatever in your vehicle, with a loaded chamber.
I wouldn’t carry my HP that way. I don’t trust mechanical bits that much.

 

[1024Megabytes]

My state let's you carry whatever in your vehicle, with a loaded chamber.

I thought Utah law stated you can carry a loaded magazine in the rifle or shotgun in your car but not with one in the chamber. Do the laws differ by counties in Utah?

I carry one in the chamber of a pistol, but I leave my long gun loaded with a magazine and empty chamber when I have them at home.

 

[ajole]

I thought Utah law stated you can carry a loaded magazine in the rifle or shotgun in your car but not with one in the chamber. Do the laws differ by counties in Utah?

I carry one in the chamber of a pistol, but I leave my long gun loaded with a magazine and empty chamber when I have them at home.

I misspoke. You are correct, you can carry a pistol that way, but not a rifle or shotgun.

 

[SWAGA]

Doesn’t the HTA stock have a second or secondary safety? Or is it just a trigger blocker?
This would allow you to use the HTA safety rather then the receiver safety.

 

[TNTRAILERTRASH]

Or maybe add the extra mag holders that attach to the carbine frame. I have not tried it, but it would triple your "carrying" capacity.

I vaguely recall something in the carbine owners manual saying not to keep a round in the chamber as well.

If you have a 995TS and you think the holders with hold the 20rd redball? :lol:

 

[SWAGA]

I carried a C9 inna door-pocket of my DurtRango wid the slide back and loaded magazine inserted....over the course of traveling about...the hold-open DID NOT
hold open...I had a loaded round in the chamber and NO SAFETY ON.

That really is one of the dumbest things I've read here.
What were you thinking?! Or not....

 

[napp]

Doesn't the HTA stock have a second or secondary safety? Or is it just a trigger blocker?
This would allow you to use the HTA safety rather then the receiver safety.

It actually has two additional safeties. It has trigger safety that must be depressed similar to the Glock. It also has a manually operated trigger block that HTA calls a safety.

 

[SWAGA]

So you may be able to after all.

 

[napp]

So you may be able to after all.

Not sure. I don't believe either of those extra safeties physically prevent the firing pin from striking the primer if a jolt or bump should disengage the sear from the hammer hooks.

I'm not totally familiar with the Hi Point mechanics. Does the trigger have to be pulled for the weapon to fire?

 

[SWAGA]

HiPoint has a drop safety and a mag safety.
When I said I dont trust the safety I mean the actual little safety lever that just uses friction to stay in place.
So I don’t use the safety except for holding the slide open.

 

[missiledefender]

Tried a search; but couldn't find a conclusive answer. My 1095TS is intended to be stored in the trunk of my vehicle. Is there any reason why it cannot ride around with a round chambered with the safety on?

The firing pin is held back by a sear that I do not trust. Now youre also talking about a spring held back and kept that way in the heat and cold of a car trunk. Then banging it around in the trunk.
I have to recommend that you do NOT keep a round in the chamber, hammer cocked with any HP.
Empty chamber, rack the slide when needed. It will look better in a "shooting after action report".
"I gave explicit verbal commands to do XY and Z, then chambered a round into my weapon" It sounds better. It's an additional step that YOU had to take and THEY, MADE you take that step.