[undeRGRound]

Finding the same old answers, so thought I'd come home and just get the best available info 🤷‍♂️

"Is it +p rated" and I haven't seen anywhere that is stated, but one does see all the usual Yada-yada bs saying "it should handle it, Ruger has a good warranty, don't run a steady diet" and so forth.
So I'm fairly certain it's not officially rated +P but as some may know, I have a rather large store of 9mm NATO which works well in my experience, and provided that this firearm is like most out there, I will shoot NATO in this carbine. IMO it is the poor man's +P and I like the sealed bullets and primers. Long storage capable FOR THE WIN!!!

 

[undeRGRound]

Well, according to the Ruger owners manual (link below):

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Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

I saw a truncated version of that exact passage, on a ruger forum 🤡
Didn't mention the +p but then again, it was simply a reply on a forum. +P capable is awesome 👌

I'll have no problem at all running the NATO.

 

[undeRGRound]

Remember…being called NATO doesn’t make it NATO, nor does actually BEING NATO spec make it +P.

The NATO spec is for velocity, not pressure. It can include 115 or 124 grain bullets, too.

Exactly. I'm just figuring Nato is gtg if it is +p rated. Sealed bullets and primers are also a bonus.

 

[undeRGRound]

Who would of thought to read the manual

Not nearly as entertaining as the old home forum, and the room temperature IQ commentary 😹

 

[undeRGRound]

Frankly...if a $600+ weapon can't handle +p ammo....why would you buy it?




You need to quit even bothering with the "NATO" label thing.

What you need to know is, if the stuff you bought in the white box with the red letters (or whatever) is +P, and if so, is that OK.

The answer, as you said, is yes....IF it's +P, it's gtg. So THAT's good news.

But you still don't know if it's +P....or even really NATO.

Why quit with Nato? It's decent ammo, with slightly better performance than regular SAAMI Pressure ammunition and all reasonable assumptions indicate it is not quite a +P so therefore safe in nearly all firearms made today by reputable manufacturers.

Now there is also imported stuff available that meets NATO weight/velocity specs, without the sealed primers, etc. but it's also priced like regular 115gr. I saw a Classic Firearms ad for that today. But it was sold out. Cheaper than Blazer Brass 115gr. Sonny-Boi bought a half case of 500 and he really likes it. I'm also thinking it should have a similar poi as any other 124gr projectile at those speeds. Plus, out of a carbine, it hits like hot 357mag from a revolver. It's just a great fit for the trajectory, power, price and groups I can get with my stuff. Is some of this perception? Most likely. Will it all be consistent case to case and box to box? Probably not. But now that I don't have to just "take what I can get" I'm trying to settle on a reasonably priced niche that checks the boxes that I've found works for me. And as they say...
YMMV
(your mileage may vary)

😜

 

[undeRGRound]

Here's a question for AL and anyone else, but @ajole always has good input on this...

Thinking about a Scope for these here Ruger PCCs and wondering if a BDC is worth the extra $$ or what.

 

[undeRGRound]

Not on a 9mm, unless you WANT to try to shoot 150 yards with a popgun.

Great answer, I'd just like to be able to explore the limits of the combo, then decide that I'd better just as well switch to the AR15 for everything over that.
So what scope or other style optic would you suggest, keeping a budget in mind, along with a realistic distance? I've seen you recommend various BSA stuff. I'm just wondering if anything stands out...

 

[undeRGRound]

Cool Stuff, Backy

 

[undeRGRound]

I need the FA trigger