You might want to consider the 22 TCM. It's easier to reload, comes in different sizes and uses the 1911 build and is every bit as fast and lethal as the 5.7. My only advice is to make sure it fires the 40gn. as well as the 39r. The ammo is cheaper and more plentiful too.
Outdoor limited has 'em $38.per 100
I tried Lee, rcbs, and Hornady, wound up using the Hornady to get the best results. I also highly recommend getting a Sheridan precision cut away round gauge. It'll show you where you're problems lie if you're having any feed or extraction problems. Here's a new load I'm going to the range with today. 43gn. Solid bullets from Maker with two coats of dry Moly. 6.2 gn. AA #7 powder. CCI Sr primerEverything I see or read says that it can be a fiddly cartridge to reload for. Apparently the 2 big gotchas to watch for are 1) to not damage the coating on the brass and 2) the powder charges have a very narrow min/max spread. Accommodating the first seems pretty simple, just hand wash, hand brush, don't tumble and accept you won't get "shiny" brass to reload. The second is pretty doable as well; the first powder I started with in 9mm is Titegroup. I chose it because it had the lowest powder charges which stretches the number of rounds I can get from a pound. But it's fiddly as the day is long. Depending on the bullet, the blasted powder has a min/max spread of 0.3 to 0.4 grains! The min/max spread on the 5.7 is 0.6 to 0.8 grains depending on bullet and powder. That's literally twice the spread. Much less fiddly than Titegroup.
Of course, I'll have to buy dies. Lee makes dies, but they're expensive by Lee standards. $56-ish.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Those were the 43gn. Solid copper. I did order the 37 gn REX. Expanding bullets as well. I'm not sure if Maker discontinued these. I hope not.
LOL, on the brass net I purchased a Caldwell " butterfly" net that's adjustable and can either be put on a stand or bench. At that time I only had the FN which throws brass about 20 feet . I was never able to line it up where it caught the lion's share of the brass so I bought approx. 5000 rd.s of once fired brass from a couple different vendors. The indoor range that I shoot the round is open for running combat drills so it isn't too hard to police the area when we're done.Ammo was delivered last night. Good grief that stuff seems tiny! I understand why it fit so many rounds in a mag and I understand why so many people find it challenging to reload for. Just the case mouth size alone is going to have its own challenges.
I'm contemplating building some sort of table-top brass net for when I take it to the outdoor range. PVC and netting or something. Any suggestions?
Now I'm just waiting on my reflex sight. Ammo is expensive enough that I bought a laser bore sighter to do an initial dial-in. I used to have one but I can't find it for the life of me. I probably loaned it to a former friend who just never returned it.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
That's the one I have,, didn't work too well with the 5.7.![]()
100%, BUY THIS ONE!!!!!!! Caldwell 122-560
You can set it on a bench, mount it on a tripod, it works easily, for rifles or handguns, holds a pile of brass, doesn't mess with the cycling, and is easy to unload.
About $53 at Amazon, and worth it, especially if you do it BEFORE you've spent $100 on three other options that never quite work.
I guess part of the reason is that I don't shoot off a bench very often anymore. Trying to run drills is impossible with it
I wish that would work for the 5.7! You're right though, when we use 5.56 most of us use the steel. Lately I've been using the .22 conversion kit in mine (makes everyone think I'm running suppressed
) or I run my 9mm build
Tactical Shit or 2nd amendment warehouse had the 57 on sale ( can't remember which)After 14 days of waiting for the distributor, Sportswarehouse, to deliver the item to the carrier, I canceled the order. I had used Amazon. I think Sportswarehouse is the official U.S. distributor for ADE but I'm looking around at other options.
If I can't find a good option for the ADE NUWA I might give up and go with something else such as the Romeo ZERO. I guess we'll see what I can find.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
WHOOPS, didn't realize you talking about an optic. My bad. (Never heard of ADE)
I've picked up a couple Swamp Fox reflex sights , I've been pretty happy with them on my carbine and crossbow.
The blur you're referring to is one of the main differences between an inexpensive and higher priced optics in my experience. I just went for an overdue eye exam. The ophthalmologist sent me to a retinal specialist. She injected dye through my hand and did a multi -layer scan. My right eye is showing early stage signs of macular degeneration. The end result being that crosshairs appear ever so slightly wavy. I now have the priviledge of 6 month follow ups to make sure it's not progressing because of my recently diagnosed Diabetes. I have one scope (Vector 6x18 FFP) that has a dot in the center of the crosshairs that lights up. It's now my favorite deer scope.
If you shot that at 75ft. offhand with a pistol You have much better eye sight than me and definitely better control!👌
Thanks Kirk, Actually my doctor has been telling me I'm pre-diabetic for years. My most recent physical revealed that I graduated according to him. My A1c is at 6.5 which my son (who is a PharmD) told me is no longer considered Diabetic. In any case I begrudgingly joined Weight Watchers and am trying to lose about 40lb.s which should help lower it. I believe that is the main contributing factor to the eye condition. There isn't any thing else that can be done at this stage.
Actually the red box 27 gn. Ammo. marked " military and law enforcement only" has been available to the public for several years. I believe Fiocchi is discontinuing it now though so it's hard to find. That ammo WILL penetrate level 3a body armor. I've tested it with some of my law enforcement buddies.
