SHOOTING AT SOUTH FLORIDA WENDY'S

Discussion in '2nd Amendment' started by FLA2760, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. FLA2760

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    This waste of life said nothing and started shooting customers. This sucks! :evil:
    This is a preliminary report just on my news here in Florida. Godspeed to the victims. They are saying that he has no connection to Wendy's, more coverage later I'm sure. Reports say at least 5 hit.
    http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/3/3/329515.html
     
  2. joebob88

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    I have never been in that kind of situation but I'm pretty sure he would have not have had a chance to shoot himself because I would have taken care of him myself. I am getting to a point that I don't leave home without my weapon. People are getting shot while attending church.
     

  3. 1inthechamber

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    Of course it's in Florida, that's all the news that comes out of that state. Sad. Sounds like the McDonald's rampage in the '80s where over 20 people were killed. The shooting just doesn't end in Florida, there's an article about a 5-hour shootout in Tijuana.
     
  4. The only thing about this latest rash of shootings that makes a person feel less angry is that the shooters have not survived.

    We do not need them in our society or our prisons :x
     
  5. FLA2760

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    You know what else came out of Florida? The first shall issue laws in 1986.
    South Florida is like a separate country from the rest of the state. The McDonalds shooting was in San Ysidro California BTW.
     
  6. joebob88

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    The Hell with state laws. I have the right to defend myself. If I go to prison for doing so. So be it. At least I'm not dead, Joe
     
  7. neothespian

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    In many states, if you are carrying illegally, you could very well end up dead either way. In Arizona, if you are carrying in an area deemed a "no carry" area, the act itself is considered an aggressive threat and can be met with lethal force in legal compliance.

    By my thinking, If I do not feel I can effectively protect myself OR if I do not feel there is adequate protection of my person being provided when the law says I cannot arm myself, I simply do not go to that area. I live in Arizona, and the Maximum security prisons here (Which is where any firearms offense is interned in this state), are known for being places that many would consider worse than death depending on who you are.

    Hard lessons learned from when I was a cab driver: I don't HAVE to be anywhere, but where I feel safe. Ever since learning that, life has been pretty good. Should've listened to that advice when I was in college :p
     
  8. joebob88

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    You should run for President since you have all the answers.
     
  9. 1inthechamber

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    I know, I'm originally from San Diego. :wink:
     
  10. neothespian

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    No offense meant at all! Just worrysome to think the only way to defeat those who refuse to function in society is to go against that same society when there are other options. It's just me and what I would do...not meant to say what EVERYONE should do.

    Then again, I would never win as president. There hasn't been a decent Socialist to run and win the presidency since FDR..... Sure as hell not running against guys like THAT. No chance.
     
  11. Another coward bites the dust. Oh well, at least he didn't take a boat load of people with him this time. I think it's time we made the whole country open carry. Imagine the amount of criminals and "cowards" that would be deterred from wrongdoing if they thought they could get shot anywhere they are breaking the law. What is there like 6 million people in prison now? I saw one news cast that said America has more people in prison than the rest of the modern nations combined. These random murder/suicides should come to an end, especially if the news people would down play it a little more. The Media is going to ultimately be the end of us all!!
     
  12. joebob88

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    Plankowner

    Thanks, I finally have someone on my side.
     
  13. joebob, CG-49 is talking about changing the laws to bring back open carry, you were talking about breaking the law in a way that could get you hurt or killed. I think there's a bit of difference between the two.

    Trust me when I say I sympathize with you. I live in Wisconsin. No concealed carry at ALL here. This will hopefully change eventually, but for now, we're all SOL in that area.
     
  14. We are never going to get the "bring your guns to work" bill passed here in Florida. Last year before it was supposed to be brought before the senate the Virginia Tech shooting's happened. Today the legeslative session opens and this occurs in a Wendy's.
     
  15. Carbin8r

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    Which is a shame. This is another example of the fact that people who do not care about the laws ignore them, leaving law-abiding people at-risk.

    If someone is insane or suicidal, no law will stop them. I dare any politician to name an example of a mass shooting (or public shooting) where the police were onsite in time to protect everyone.

    The Colorado Springs church shooter incident is a prime example of what empowering individuals can do. The shooter had already shot up a church near Denver, and made it an hour South to ocntinue. The police had no clue and where helpless (and I am not blaming them. I think people expect WAY too much from our police forces).

    I think being articulate, and emphasizing the training that goes into getting a CCW can help sway opinion...
     
  16. I couldn't agree more with your last statement!
     
  17. Jettster

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    I'm jumping around a bit here...

    Honestly, he could have rammed his car through the restaurant or gone on a rock throwing spree or used a cattle bolt like the killer in No Country for Old Men. Who knows what caused this man to snap, either way if someone is intent on killing someone, they're going to do it one way or another. There is obviously a flaw in him and he should have not been a gun owner.

    General conceal and carry is unfortunately not the answer, although I do support the idea (being a business owner in crime ridden Baltimore) of certification and competency testing. I'm just not smart enough to find the solution that works. Breaking the law is breaking the law doesn't matter your intentions. Who knows if you will be able to react in that situation, it's not like on TV or in the movies. I've been held up by gunpoint on several occasions, in those instances I understood the criminal was after my money. However, who knows what could have occured, that is why I LEGALLY conceal and carry.
     
  18. FLA2760

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    The guy that was killed was a firefighter/paramedic that was on his lunch break. His wife and child met him for lunch and they left in a separate vehicle. Apparently he went back to the Wendy's to exchange one of those toys that come with the kid's meal for his child when he was killed. That is VERY sad.
     
  19. A man who risks his life every day for the people of his community gets shot and killed by this scum of the earth. You know things like this just really make me sick to my stomach.
     
  20. What the Funk is wrong with people when is this kind of stuff gonna stop happening soon its not going to be save to walk outside to get your mail. All I can say is Im not going anywhere without my weapon and so should every other Qualified CCW owner