Went out yesterday and shot up 2 old fire extinguishers with my Hi-Points, S&W 500 and a Win270. The carbines knocked them around really well. Not so much with the C9. The S&W500 and the Win270 absolutely knocked 'em down the range a bit farther each shot! If you are wondering why I have the air horn to the right on the table on the 1st picture, I tell everyone on the firing line it is to be used by anyone requiring an immediate "cease fire".