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Suprised to not find a forum on how to use your firearm???


Hello, and hopefully you won't find this to brash for a first post. :devilsidesmile:


The Army pistol manual of 2003 calls for using "Quick-Fire Point Shooting" at less than 5 yards and at night. The gun is brought up close to the body in a two handed grip. Then at chin level, it is thrust forward. And the trigger is smoothly squeezed as the elbows straighten out.

The NRA endorses the use of Point Shooting in CQ self defense situations.

And the Force Science Research Center has just released info on a new study on CQB.

Here are links toarticles on the info. To come right back here after reading either one, just use you go back button or X it.



I also advocate Point Shootingfor shooting at CQ. The method I suggest is one that has been around since at least 1835, and was used by the Chinese military in the early 1900's.

The method calls for using the index finger along the side of the frame to aim the weapon and using the middle finger to pull the trigger.

Unfortunately, it could not be used with the 1911 due to a design flaw in the 1911.

Here's what the Army says about aiming with the index finger.

Everyone has the ability to point at an object, and that:

"When a soldier points, he instinctively points at the feature on the object on which his eyes are focused. An impulse from the brain causes the arm and hand to stop when the finger reaches the proper position.

"When the eyes are shifted to a new object or feature, the finger, hand, and arm also shift to this point.

"It is this inherent trait that can be used by a soldier to rapidly and accurately engage targets."

But, if the index finger is used to aim a 1911 as described above, the take down pivot can be pushed in and cause the gun to jam.

This flaw was known to the Army, as the first manual on the 1911 carried a caution against using the natural, fast, and accurate aiming method with the 1911. The caution was repeated in other manuals of the early years after the 1911 was adopted.

IMHO, the result was to squelch the use of the method, and deprive the soldier of an optional method of shooting in CQB when it was dark or when the sights could not be seen, or there was no time to use them.

For info on the 1911 see http://www.pointshooting.com/1911.htm

As the 1911 is no longer the standard issue, perhaps the method will again become popular for CQB use.

Data on Police combat, and scientific studies on CQB say that you will use Point Shooting, so why not???

It is not a bar to use of the sights, and most all other negatives about it have been disarmed so to speak.

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alot of it depends on the situation you are in. precision shots require use of the sights. fast engagement of multiple targets at close to medium range requires instinctive point shooting. you have to practice and be proficient at both. getting technical with it can hamper your efforts to shoot well because you are too worried about form, having hands exactly placed etc.

when i shoot i lock my elbows and tuck my left cheekbone into my left upper arm muscle (im left handed). this gives me a soild sight picture to work with and recoil bounce is minimized. i can engage and critcally hit up to five targets at close range in less than three seconds in this manner. it works for me, it may not for you.

just get out there and shoot, shoot, shoot. i practice targets at contact distance to 50 yards with my primary carry (glock 17). in multiples, singles, mixed in with no shoot targets etc.

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