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I’d have skipped the hardware on the butt and just run it through the slot, but that’s not a bad setup at all.
 

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I'd have skipped the hardware on the butt and just run it through the slot, but that's not a bad setup at all.
I did it this way so that I could shoot the AR this way. Of course the rifle and sling shown aren't AR and not nylon, but it shows the basic concept pretty well.
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I am NOT shooting this way ever below :rolleyes: outside of "competition shooting"; this posture makes very little sense to me.
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A lot of the "latest and greatest" make no real sense to me. Sometimes I think the "tact-t-kool" kids just need something new to show off or the "operator" turned trainer just needs a new gimmick. Competition shooting bears little resemblance to real life, though I guess some claim to find it helpful.
 

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I think it’s called the C-grip and it surely looks Special Olympics to me
 

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C-Clamp grip. Ridiculous yes. Heres another competition grip that looks goofy as hell. Not officially taught by USMC though. Looks based on Biathlon standing grips though.
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People make money using those grips people. If they were stupid, the pros wouldn’t use them.

The C clamp makes it easier to quickly transition between targets and control recoil and muzzle flip, while making pointing more natural. Great for accurate speed shooting.

But it’s a stupid thing for CQB and other things one would use the gun for.

The girl with the arm underneath is using the Olympic style stance, the left elbow is transferring the weight of the gun to her hips, taking the weight on the bones, rather than using muscles.
If you don’t do that, you don’t win gold medals in the slow fire matches. Period.
 
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I did it this way so that I could shoot the AR this way. Of course the rifle and sling shown aren't AR and not nylon, but it shows the basic concept pretty well
Ummmm....yeah. The rear sling swivel OR the slot in the stock will still let you do that.
I just wouldn't use the metal hook you used. It makes noise, it slides around, I have tried it, I don't like it.
 
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Ummmm....yeah. The rear sling swivel OR the slot in the stock will still let you do that.
I just wouldn't use the metal hook you used. It makes noise, it slides around, I have tried it, I don't like it.
Its not a QD sling loop on the m4 stock. Its pinned. Sure I could still undo the triglide to remove from the loop but... eh. We'll see. I might have a sturdy acetal hook somewhere from a pack
 

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Yeah, I get it. You want to unhook the rear so you can do the shooters sling thing. That’s good, if that’s what you’re doing.

I’m more into the hasty sling thing myself. Not shooting far enough to need ALL that support, so I’m good wrapping it up and pulling tension that way.

Not saying you were wrong.:thumbsup:
 

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C-Clamp grip. Ridiculous yes. Heres another competition grip that looks goofy as hell. Not officially taught by USMC though. Looks based on Biathlon standing grips though. View attachment 67451
This is a classic sharpshooter grip/stance. I can document it as a U.S. Army riflery method going back to at lease WWI. As @ajole says, it allows the shooter to "brace" the support arm (left in this case) against the side, rib-cage, or hip (depending on the shooter's arms). It provides an exceptionally stable shooting platform and is still taught today in the NRA Basic Rifle Shooting Course.

R. Lee Ermey used to do it a lot:
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Here's a version with the sling.
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This is a classic sharpshooter grip/stance. I can document it as a U.S. Army riflery method going back to at lease WWI. As @ajole says, it allows the shooter to "brace" the support arm (left in this case) against the side, rib-cage, or hip (depending on the shooter's arms). It provides an exceptionally stable shooting platform and is still taught today in the NRA Basic Rifle Shooting Course.

R. Lee Ermey used to do it a lot:
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Peace favor your sword,
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We were taught it in boot, and I still use it today. It's awkward at first, but very stable and solid. Used to keep a hard plastic cigarette case in my left breast pocket to "hook" my tricep on to pull my blouse tight across my chest and add more stability.
 

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Fascinating. My assumption comes from this article https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/ne...20/05/12/what-the-hell-is-this-shooting-grip/

In which one of the commanders says its not officially taught currently.

The grip like I said looks real similar to the biathlon standing stance, although I feel it should be more natural to have the left hand holding the magazine well of the AR/M16/M4 type? As seen here on a biathlon shooter, instead of the other way around?
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