It really gets under my skin I see a post, either here or on another forum, when someone will state what they can afford in a certain price range and then asked for opinions, there are always those who throw out the "save a few hundred dollars more and buy XXX". How hard is it to understand that the person posting has only the stated amount. Maybe no matter how much they try, maybe another bill pops up out of nowhere. This is why I first purchased a Hi Point. As a single income family, due to my wife not being able to work much because our oldest son has a heart condition and tends to miss quite a bit of school, so when looking for a gun I settled on a CF380 and have since added a C9. I recently traded a Mosin with some ammo for a S&W SD9VE, reading some other boards, so many are saying save a couple hundred more and just get a Glock. I guess I just don't have the disposable income others have. Rant over.