My groups with the 995ts had been getting larger; 2-3" @ 50yrd increased to 3-5". Called HP. We talked. They said send it in. (FYI's: 4,500 rnds, mostly S&B and Magtech 115's)
Got it back and they replaced LOT's of parts including the chamber but the report also said "... so much build up that we had to replace the barrel." Ouch.
So can a barrel be too dirty to clean or was it just faster/cheaper of the mfgr to just drop in a new one along with a bunch of other parts?
Wouldn't a 'dirty beyond repair' barrel produce crazy groups rather than just ones that were a little larger?
So OP asks a question, "can an over-dirty barrel have this specific performance issue?" And he gets 4 replies of "You didn't clean your barrel, here's how to do it."
Good job, HPFF.
So I figure I'll pile on too...
Q: "can an over-dirty barrel have this specific performance issue?
A: "you're stupid and ugly."
Here's the real answer. Yes, as the rifling becomes less effective because it's getting filled in, groups will tend to open up. BP guys are familiar with this phenomenon; it happens really fast for them. Yes, cleaning a very fouled barrel can be quite a chore, particularly if it's copper fouling. If a replacement barrel is just setting there, it's a ton faster to just swap the barrel.
So OP asks a question, "can an over-dirty barrel have this specific performance issue?" And he gets 4 replies of "You didn't clean your barrel, here's how to do it."
You didn't answer either of his questions and, instead, focused on his explanation of why he's asking the question. It sure reads as criticism. Unhelpful at the very least.
Holy crap!! What has happened here? When I joined this forum people were regularly harrassed to the point of leaving. It was like a hobby for some of us. I nearly left many times. I specifically remember asking how many posts did it take to be accepted as a member of this forum?
People are so thin skinned nowadays. This thread was very mild compared to some I've seen here. Everyone needs to put on their big girl panties and get a grip
P.S. sorry for your loss Kirk. Losing your family pet is devastating.
P.S.S. "you're supposed to clean these thing?!?"
Holy crap!! What has happened here? When I joined this forum people were regularly harrassed to the point of leaving. It was like a hobby for some of us. I nearly left many times. I specifically remember asking how many posts did it take to be accepted as a member of this forum?
People are so thin skinned nowadays. This thread was very mild compared to some I've seen here. Everyone needs to put on their big girl panties and get a grip
P.S. sorry for your loss Kirk. Losing your family pet is devastating.
P.S.S. "you're supposed to clean these thing?!?"
Why would you try to run off new people ? There doesn't seem to be much activity on this forum already and it seems like participation from new people would be welcomed.
I stuck it out. Been here for 8yrs. There's a lot of good people here. Lots of good advice. I think some have decided that "big brother" is watching so they've stopped posting. I personally lost all my firearms in a freak unicycling accident so I just hang around to live vicariously. Haha
Welcome Amberloo from the great southwest!
I got a vacation for pointing out to a mod on a Glock forum when he told us that we couldn't talk politics. Yet they had a politics forum. That shitbag claimed I was trolling. Fuck'm and feed'm fish heads and rice.
@OldOutlaw it also says your participation here is 100% voluntary and you as the user aren't permitted to prevent or restrict the ability of other users to enjoy the site. If someone brought up the Bible passage in your signature line and pointed out how it's outside of the pay wall in direct violation of our local rules? I would be obligated to do one of many things from removing it to banning you.
Instead, the complainant would be told to suck it up.
Prayer requests, the 2A forum, the OC/CC area, any post with any profanity or hint of impropriety, all of it can disappear right now if you want.
Just keep in mind that you're the jagoff that complained about Kirk and I so much to the admins on another forum that it got one of those morons sent here who completely screwed up the entire back end of the forum to the point that I had to call the then EOL rep and talk her through restoring things.
If you're so thin skinned that you can't handle a little profanity, feel free to stick to the other forum...
@OldOutlaw
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Just keep in mind that you're the jagoff that complained about Kirk and I so much to the admins on another forum that it got one of those morons sent here who completely screwed up the entire back end of the forum to the point that I had to call the then EOL rep and talk her through restoring things.
You're being too nice. OO pissing and moaning about the staff here is also the reason that some douche got sent over as a fully empowered mod. He showed up, white-knighted himself, blabbed on about how many other forums he was a mod for, ignored our policies and procedures of conduct and ethics for staff, then effed of in a sulk after being told that 1) we didn't want him or need him, and 2) he still has to follow the rules here just like the rest of us.
sounds like a mess, thanks for trying to explain and it doesn't affect me much I don't think anywya.
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