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It will be very interesting to see the outcome of this case. Many gun laws could be effected in one way
or the other. First major Supreme Court hearing of the New York current gun laws.

 

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Hope they slap NY down, and make it hurt. Like, order reparations to EVERYONE they ever denied under their unconstitutional laws, and then allow civil suits against politicians that made the laws by EVERYONE that was hurt or had a relative killed with a gun, after being denied.
 

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Hope they slap NY down, and make it hurt. Like, order reparations to EVERYONE they ever denied under their unconstitutional laws, and then allow civil suits against politicians that made the laws by EVERYONE that was hurt or had a relative killed with a gun, after being denied.
Won't say I wouldn't enjoy that, but I'll stop at that. Keep this on out of the Dark Room. Do you (or anyone else) know if this would affect Cali, NJ, and/or Maryland? Or is this just a NY thing for now? I'd think a 2A favorable decision would also open the floodgate in Cali, HI, NJ, and any other "may issue" state.
 
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Won't say I wouldn't enjoy that, but I'll stop at that. Keep this on out of the Dark Room. Do you (or anyone else) know if this would affect Cali, NJ, and/or Maryland? Or is this just a NY thing for now? I'd think a 2A favorable decision would also open the floodgate in Cali, HI, NJ, and any other "may issue" state.
The article said it may effect all those states as they are patterned after NY.
 

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Won't say I wouldn't enjoy that, but I'll stop at that. Keep this on out of the Dark Room. Do you (or anyone else) know if this would affect Cali, NJ, and/or Maryland? Or is this just a NY thing for now? I'd think a 2A favorable decision would also open the floodgate in Cali, HI, NJ, and any other "may issue" state.
Well, it is a SCOTUS case so it will have jurisdiction over the entire U.S. regardless of the Circuit.

Most observers believe that SCOTUS will rule in favor of gun rights. The question is "how far reaching will it be?" Will SCOTUS finally declare that 2A needs the standard of review to be Strict Scrutiny?

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that this will be a 6-3 or better for gun rights with Chief Justice Roberts ruling with the majority, in favor of gun rights. Here's why. Roberts is squishy on gun rights. He has a history of wanting them to be watered as much as possible and he desperately wants this ruling to be as narrowly tailored as it can be. If he doesn't rule with the majority, then he has no say in how the Majority Opinion is written. In that case, it will probably fall to Justice Thomas, who hasn't exactly been circumspect in the fact that he believes the lower courts have been treating the 2nd as, well, "a second class right" and they have been "thumbing their noses at SCOTUS." Justice Thomas is most likely to write a broader reaching Majority Opinion than Chief Justice Roberts. But if Roberts sides with the majority, on the other hand, then he gets to decide who, among the majority, writes the decision. He could even choose to write it himself, which would give him the opportunity to "moderate" the ruling, even specifically writing that the 2nd can be handled with "Intermediate Scrutiny" instead of Strict Scrutiny, which would be very bad, imo.

So I'm betting that Roberts votes with the majority in <cough> "favor" of 2A rights, and then does whatever he can to make it a Pyrrhic Victory for human rights advocates.

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