Tactical or Traditional which do you like?

Discussion in 'General Firearms Discussion' started by wizard, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. wizard

    wizard Well-Known Member

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  2. FlashBang

    FlashBang I Stand With Talon Lifetime Supporter

    Call me old fashioned....
     

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  3. Kiln

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    From a usefulness standpoint, tactical is the way to go. From a collector's standpoint, wood and bluing looks better IMO.

    What I mean by usefulness is, try firing a fixed stock AK without a muzzle break and standard handguard. Now fire an AK with a slot brake, adjustable stock that actually fits you, and adding a vertical grip( a short one that doesn't interfere with mag swaps). The recoil difference is extremely noticeable for everyone. I know this because this weekend we shot my brother's Mak-90 alongside my AK with all of the equipment noted above attached to mine and there was probably a 40% recoil reduction at least.
     
  4. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    Tactical is bull****

    tac·ti·cal
    ˈtaktək(ə)l/
    adjective
    of, relating to, or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end.
    "as a tactical officer in the field he had no equal"
    (of bombing or weapons) done or for use in immediate support of military or naval operations.
    (of a person or their actions) showing adroit planning; aiming at an end beyond the immediate action.
    "in a tactical retreat"

    So an action or act of a person or group of persons makes something tactical.
    Not the paint, how many rails it has or skull stickers.

    I don't care about clip vs magazine but that overuse of the word tactical really gets the sand in my vayayay.

    I have a 1930 Remington model 11 with slugs as my boom stick.
    I have a 30.06 with a Hubble telescope in case I don't feel like running after you.
    No lasers, fasers, tazers or more rails then Amtrak required

    * angry face *
     
  5. lsi1

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    i like black guns and i can not lie.

    from a collection standpoint wood and blued metal is far more attractive to me but i generally buy more defensively purposed firearms. I'm not one for loading up rails just the basics irons maybe a scope a flashlight on something that i want to use if i investigate a bump in the night.
     
  6. Hermitt

    Hermitt Hey! Get Off My Lawn! Member

    My 1860 Army .44
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  7. ajole

    ajole Supporting Member

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    I prefer traditional over "tactical"...but it isn't like wood can't be "tactical".:cool:

    Both wood and polymer guns have place in my life.

    Different stuff for different uses.

    This is a tactical gun from the 1950's and '60's....

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    Is this a tactical pistol? I mean...it IS black, with plastic, right?

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    How about this? Camo, rail under the muzzle and on the top, blacked out metal, scope...tactical, right?

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    Tactial Shotgun? Black, plastic furniture, mag fed, threaded muzzle, cheek weld that can be rotated for use with or without a scope...

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    Tactical .22? Scope, integral monopod, T-Bolt handle, finger grooves, mag fed, hooded front sights...

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  8. Kiln

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    The word "tactical" has evolved to include specialized equipment as well as plans of action. Similar to the way that the word magazine meant a storage area for powder, weapons, or explosives.
     
  9. Kiln

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    The word "tactical" has evolved to include specialized equipment as well as plans of action. Similar to the way that the word magazine meant a storage area (such as an entire room) for powder, weapons, or explosives. It is now most commonly associated with removable storage devices for ammunition.
     
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  10. Well I can join this party: Sort of tactical but with wood and steel~!

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    Only 20 rds but they don't allow anyone to use cover, lol.

    paul
     
  11. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

  12. talon

    talon the banned wagon

    Why not a few of each?
     

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  13. moona11

    moona11 King of you Monkeys Lifetime Supporter

    O ya gun porn from Talon :-D
     
  14. talon

    talon the banned wagon

    You've got to be sick of seeing them. I do have a few new projects in the works though.
    Even the pistols have a classic and a tactical version, and an in between....
     

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  15. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    @ Kiln, it's so 'tactical' you needed to say it twice ;)

    And tactical is still an adjective.
    And the comparison with 'magazine' doesn't work as the word is not an adjective, it's a noun.

    Now Engrish is not my strong point but I know that much.
    The word 'tactical' has been sexually abused in the exit orifice into the different meaning of "fashionable" for the easily impressed

    It's still wrong.
    *******
    WARNING - my Kirk button has been irked

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  16. Think1st

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    "Tactical" is, indeed, an abused term. I prefer synthetic furniture on all of my rifles, not be cause it is tacticool but because it is easy to maintain and lighter. There is nothing more tactical about black synthetic furniture than there is about wooden furniture.

    Rails also don't equal "tactical". They just allow the addition of conveniences. The term has been exploited by mall ninjas, who want to enjoy the illusion of being equipped like elite forces, and by manufacturers who cater to them. Furniture type is all a matter of form versus function, and "tactical" has nothing to do with it.
     
  17. SWAGA

    SWAGA No longer broke... Lifetime Supporter

    Thank you 1st.....
    Ajole and you agreed with me in the same week.
    I'm on a roll here....:)

    Now for the "operator" look outside the context of a small scale 'tactical' operation in camel country

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  18. dirt_19

    dirt_19 Supporting Member

    Generally I divide my taste in firearms primarily by purpose . Tools have synthetic furniture and only accessories deemed necessary for it to fulfill its purpose. If it's for occasional use but mostly exist just to tickle my fancy wood furniture is almost a must .
     
  19. USMC_VET

    USMC_VET Supporting Member

    Evil black tactical all the way !!


    Name any former military or active duty that doesn't like some form of a tactical firearm !!!
     
  20. undeRGRound

    undeRGRound ROLL wif Da MOLE! Supporting Member

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    Hence, my pet term,
    BLACTICAL

    But I have a growing appreciation for Wood and bluing ;)

    Oh, got the Finger Groove Grips on the BHP ;)
     

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