the pistols

Discussion in 'General Firearms Discussion' started by s0b3, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. s0b3

    s0b3 Member

    Since I had posted my .223/5.56 toys earlier, I figured it was time to get the pistols out.

    Top to Bottom, Left to Right

    Springfield XD40 Service Model
    IMI Baby Eagle .40
    Ruger P95DC

    Glock 22
    Glock 23
    Glock 27

    Llama Minimax .45
    Keltec P3AT


    SITES Spectre 9mm (50 round quad stack magazine)


  2. Man another great collection
  3. Maverick

    Maverick Guest

    No Kidding!

    I love that Spectre 9mm! That looks Nasty!
  4. hipoint.nut

    hipoint.nut Member

    Jericho 941 "Baby Eagle" now that’s what I am talking about. Israel makes a great gun.
  5. Ooooooooooooooooooo! :)
  6. Thayldt21

    Thayldt21 Senior Member Member

    gun porn.


    I hope you don't mind my lookin :D
  7. Ari

    Ari Guest

    Tell us about that Spectre? I have never seen anyone who has one
  8. andrew241

    andrew241 Member

  9. s0b3

    s0b3 Member

    The Spectre is an Italian submachine gun that was produced by the SITES factory in Turin. It was designed by Roberto Teppa and Claudio Gritti in the mid-1980s. Production ceased with the end of SITES in 2001. The Spectre is used by the Swiss armed forces and by Italian special forces, and has been exported elsewhere.

    The Spectre is a compact and light weapon, designed for instant firepower in close combat at short ranges. The four models have top-folding buttstocks, and were available with or without a forward handgrip ahead of the magazine housing. The largely polymer Spectre has a stamped-steel receiver.

    The Spectre is a standard blowback firearm operating from a closed bolt; however it has some unusual features. The barrel shroud completely hides the barrel. The bolt is designed to pump air through the barrel shroud to provide additional cooling. The Spectre is hammer-fired and the trigger group is double action with a decocker. This allows the shooter to safely carry a round in the chamber and fire immediately. As this eliminates the need for cocking prior to shooting no manual safety is provided. Unconventional 50-round capacity, four-column magazines are provided with the Spectre, but it can also use conventional magazines.

    Versions of the SITES "Spectre" M4 sub-machinegun specifically made for the civilian market have been around since the middle 1980s and up to the middle 1990s, when the US Assault Weapons Ban prohibited the import and sale of them on the American market, the biggest and most lucrative for this kind of items, thus causing them to go out of production. The civilian-grade variants of the SITES "Spectre" M4 have namely been a semi-automatic pistol called the SITES "Falcon" (marketed in the USA as the "Spectre-HC") and a semi-automatic sub-carbine called the SITES "Ranger". These weapons retain the main layout of the original "Spectre" sub-machinegun, are incapable of fully-automatic fire, and the original magazine capacity is reduced for marketing in countries where the law requires it (such as, to say, in Italy). The SITES "Falcon" (or "Spectre-HC") pistol may and may not be encountered with the original upfolding stock and foregrip (the samples sold in the USA as the "Spectre-HC" generally feature none of these; the "Falcon" sold in Italy feature both, with the foregrip being removable). The SITES "Ranger" sub-carbine, which was a distinctly Italian market gun, features the foregrip (which is removable), a longer barrel, and the upfolding stock is permanently locked into open position to comply with the requirements of the Italian laws about the minimum allowed length for civilian-legal long arms. The upfolding stock on the SITES "Ranger" subcarbine was however engineered to be easily removable for storage. In the version of this carbine sold in Italy, the removal of the stock was made harder, requiring the use of tools, and proceeding to effectively shorten the weapon by this way could be persecuted as a criminal offense. In other countries (where legal), the removal of the stock in this and other versions was easier.
  10. s0b3

    s0b3 Member

    In 1984 the Italian firm of Sites introduced the Spectre submachine-gun. At the time the international weapons press was very positive about the new weapon, but it has failed to get large orders. This is really a shame, for although the Spectre looks a bit "cheaper" than, say, a H&K MP5, it is just as good a weapon. The Spectre certainly has some things going for it: It fires from a closed bolt for better accuracy, is relatively small, has a innovative magazine design, a standard folding stock, a standard vertical forward grip, and unlike most submachine-guns, it has a double action trigger and a decocking lever, meaning that the weapon can be carried totally safe, and is fired much like a lot of pistols, with a first heavy trigger pull, and subsequent lighter trigger pulls. The barrel has polygonal rifling, which increases its life, and is better for accuracy.
    The magazine has four rows of bullets next to each other, allowing it to be much less long for a given number of bullets. The fifty round magazine for the Spectre is about as long as a thirty round magazine for a MP-5. A thirty round magazine is also available.

    Weight: 6.4 lbs (2.9 kg) (empty)
    Caliber: 9 mm
    Barrel: 5.1 inch (13 cm)
    Length: 23.2 inch (58 cm), 14 inch (35 cm) with folded stock
    Action: Unlocked blowback, fires from closed bolt.
    Mode of Fire: 3 available: Semi-Automatic / Full-Automatic
    Rate of Fire: 850 rpm
    Range: 250 ft (76.2 m)
    Magazine: 30 / 50 round
    Cost: ?
    Made in: Italy
    Special: Innovative design, high capacity. Reliable. A good, but underrated design. Get one if you can.
  11. Maverick

    Maverick Guest

    I bet you get some looks when you pull that thing out at the range... Very Cool!
  12. mjd932

    mjd932 Member

    How much does the spectre run? Too bad you can't put a VFG on it w/out paperwork.
  13. Its always sweet to see another gun nuts collection.
  14. s0b3

    s0b3 Member

    when they come up for sale (not that often), they fetch around $800-$950. magazines are near impossible to find and when they do come up, expect to pay $150 for a 30 rounder and $200 for a 50 rounder. without the mag loading tool, they are a pain to load. due to it's size and weight, there's hardly and recoil.

    no forward grip unless you register it as AOW