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It was a lot of fun. I got signed up w/ several new distributors, and placed 4 orders on Friday - then lit out for Tombstone & Naco, where I rescued a very drunk worm from Mexico.

 

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I'm liking the lever action AR15 lower I saw in a video. Would love to get one in an AR10 size. I'm already considering an SBR in .308 or possibly in .300BO for when I'm out riding the horse. A lever action AR just seems cooler than an SBR.

Fightlite, same folks w/ the ARish lower that takes Remington 1100 stocks, and the belt-fed upper.

 

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All the horse people are saying you can't put a mag fed gun in a scabbard, so the tube feeders are Gods answer to the horse gun.
I figure they just need to get busy building a better scabbard.

I had a scabbard in Iraq mounted on my bike, for riding around the FOB.

 

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This one is from Bond Arms. Accepts standard AR uppers, AR mags, and Remington shotgun stocks.

Bond Arms | Bond Arms Lever-Action Interesting. Very similar to this:

HERRING® MODEL 2024 - ADVANCED LEVER ACTION RIFLE (HLR-556-BK)

 

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I like the look of the Herring better. But I'm not familiar with Herring, and the price is off putting.

Bond Arms Lever Action on top, Herring Model 2024 on the bottom
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The Herring is made by Fightlite, formerly Ares, of belt fed AR-15 upper fame and their SCR ARish lower that takes 1100 stocks for ban states, a roundabout apology to the New Yorkers who put down deposits on their belt fed uppers, then when it was released Ares refused to ship the uppers to New York and kept the deposits. Decent engineers, better than normal firearm company businessmen but not folks you'd want your daughter to seriously date.

Bond Arms is WAY out of their usual market on this one. They solved some unusual engineering challenges when they bought Boberg, but I certainly didn't expect this from them. I think both of those guns would look more interesting w/ a wood forend and a wood straight-wristed stock, w/ levers to match.

 

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I don't like that mesh of old west and tacticool at all. I think more power to em for coming up with something unique but that's about it. Just doesn't do much for me personally as far as aesthetics nor practicality.

That bond arms lever action just looks silly with that big ol full length rail with a lil red dot on top. But I certainly would not knock anyone for buying/liking it, and if I knew someone who did, I'd want to play with it at least once.

We'll see more silliness like that until the Supremes strike down all the state AWBs. We'll continue w/ 16" bbls on HiPoint carbines til the NFA is struck down. We won't have easily attachable stocks for the HiPoint pistols til then.

 

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The idea is cool. The actual gun, not so much.

There’s a reason NONE of those old stocked handguns stayed in production for long once the military they were made for realized they were silly.

It’s an idea that fits in parallel with why MILLIONS of AR pistol braces have been sold, and why guns like the CZ Skorpion and HK MP and UMP series continue to be sold.

1896-1937, not long at all...

The 1934 NFA killed or delayed the development of many firearms, stocked handguns among them.

 

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As for the NFA…..not sure that the effect of killing off pistols that could take a separate stock was a bad thing.

I don’t want to easily get around….I want them to stop trying to incriminate me.
Period.

Pick one or t'other.

 

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You mean the C96? Nope. No individual military ever liked it for long. Even the German military rejected it after only a few years of use during WW1. Pretty sure no military ever ordered a second helping, outside the Chinese. Most sales were in third world countries. The shoulder stock wasn’t even available until 1898, and how many C96’s do you think were made without a slot?
Nah….it’s cool on paper, but it’s not that useful in the real world. In action, you either use it as a pistol, or you have time to grab a real rifle…or you wish you had an actual rifle.

Unless you were chasing off African tribesmen, like the ones that watched WDM Bell, who, after he shot a spear in half, casually mounted up the stock and then chased them off by shooting at the ground around them for a few hundred yards. Again….nice in a third world country.

As for the NFA…..not sure that the effect of killing off pistols that could take a separate stock was a bad thing. Notice that the guys that COULD have ANYTHING they wanted built for them, all went for a real handgun only pistol, or a real carbine or a sub gun, some of which had folding or collapsing stocks, but none of which was a one handed gun with a separate stock.

Except the Canadians. But….they were Canadians, so, do they really count? But seriously, the fact is they had a functioning factory, the inventor made it to Britain, the Chinese ordered a PILE….again, the Chinese, but then they couldn’t be delivered so the Canadians took them instead. war time production was a beast, so they just keep making them. Not because they were better, but because they COULD keep making them….but not all with stocks. Then they sold another pile to the Chinese. After the war, though….they stopped making the shoulder stock model. Which is, again, my point.

The German military used the C96 into the 2nd WW, the Luftwaffe ordered more after the war broke out & was filled from Mauser's stock. The Chinese took every stocked pistol they could get, and even manufactured em in .45 ACP. The USSR bought a bunch from Mauser after the civil war. It's a pretty impressive list on Wiki.

Prior to pistol braces, the first pistol chassis were showing up on the market, w/ a small note that all NFA Rules Apply - basically a felony in a box. Braces changed that, and the braced pistol chassis have been quite popular. The HK P7 is basically a full-auto pistol w/ a stock & an optic - how much further along would we be w/o the NFA trying to incriminate you?

 

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