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Heres my first project gun.

Just a standard 91/30. Put it into an ATI Monte Carlo stock, got the bolt turned down by someone on eBay (did a fine job), mounted a bi-pod, installed the UTG scope mount then used my dremel to remove some mounting rails on the front and ground out a round well so the bell of the scope mounts near flush but can still be adjusted (the scope is a 40X magnification so you can see a long way out). Also put on a elevated cheek rest to get up to the height that matches the scope (needs remounted as it stops the bolt from coming all the way back right now).

She looks good, but how she shoots is another story. It's very consistant at delivering 2" groups at 200 yards, but the placement is 20" high and 10" left and the scope is cranked. If anyone has a suggestion please let me know because right now this thing is just a conversation piece. I've thought about trying to bend the barrel an n'th of an inch, but I think that might be dangerous.

If I can figure out a way to get her on target I'll remount the cheek rest, and then try my hand at a camouflage paint job. Otherwise I might just sell it for a hair less than what I've got in it and wash my hands of the whole affair.





 

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Remount the scope, there are some very good internet videos on how to do this keeping everything level to prevent it from being canted which is what it sounds like has happened.
 

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Your going to alter something permanent....like bending your barrel to take advantage of something that is temporary? I think throwing that mount in your neighbor's front yard and going with the ATI mount would solve all of your problems...and putting a little notch on your cheek weld.

Very fine looking rifle you have there,
 

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Here is an article on Mosin scout mounts, good site btw.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/mosinscoutrifle/index.asp

Also this may be useful

http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/skm44scopemount/index.asp

The people making the SK mount for Mosins have a good product. They make a good 91/30 mount also so the second article wil apply to you also, I like the SK type mount over the weaver just works better IMHO. Scopes can never be better than the mount so never skimp there. I love using a well put together scout rifle. You are on the right track just check that mount. Never used the ATI not a company I use for this.
 

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I really don't want to use a scout mount though. Thats Why I got the bolt turned down. I was trying to build a "Sniper" rifle on the cheap.

I'm really interested in the ball trigger though. I heard a friend talk about it once. Seems a reasonable price if it does what it says.
 

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Well even if you arent using a LER scope you are using the mount. Thats a huge scope for that mount though. good luck
 

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Spend a bit of money to get it taped for a propper scope mount. You will most likely have to use a set of high mount rings, but the scope will fit tighter. The reason that thing is way off is you are using a mount meant for a long eye relief scope, and using a scope ten times too big for it. If what you want is a budget sniper rifle a rock solid scope mount it essential.
 

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The "Huber Trigger", is well worth the money. I have one that was given to me, installed it briefly onto a M38 and it was like shooting a totally different gun. Alas, the good thing about it is that it is not permanent, cause we all know how I feel about sporterized milsurps.............
 

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It looks like you put some hard work into that rifle. That being said... I've never seen the point behind sinking money into a Mosin when you can get a rifle off the shelf that will fill the role you are trying to create. I kind of think that Mosins are what they are and do best when left pretty much alone.
 

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You might wanna do something about the rust in the barrel at the muzzle dude... Just a thought.
 

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It looks like you put some hard work into that rifle. That being said... I've never seen the point behind sinking money into a Mosin when you can get a rifle off the shelf that will fill the role you are trying to create. I kind of think that Mosins are what they are and do best when left pretty much alone.
There is solid reason for using a military rifle, they are almost without exception tougher than commercial offerings, being designed for high rates of fire while commercial rifles are designed for much lower rates. There is a lot of info on improving Mosin performance including that pesky sticky bolt that may well just be cosmoline in the chamber.

While they generally sacrifice some accuracy to achieve flexibility in ammo selection and reliability I consider this a good trade and the accuracy lost can me minimal while there is no substitute for reliability. Then of course there is the history even if you do sporterize it. This isnt exactly a one of rifle, there are millions of Mosins out there so improving the rifle cheaply with a new stock and barrel work is not foolish or ill advised. Because of this go crazy man if you foul it up its easily replaced.

I think the scope is too long for a scout mount also due to the stress placed on the scope tube from recoil. Personally I like the advantages of scout configuration but there are some points to keep in mind. Magnification should be kept low to keep field of view as high as possible, 2-3x is standard but some go 4x and it works also. Length of the scope itself can be a factor. Range should not really be a factor since with the scout you can easily make a 500m shot depending on skill. Too much is made of 800m shots they just are not very common and are risky when hunting as too much can affect the shot. But even then 3-4x would be adequate if not ideal. A decent pistol scope can be had for not a lot of money since they are designed for high recoil or rather should be.

The good condition Mosin can with proper ammo make any shot you wish, have fun.
 

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I had a winchester trapper .30/30 that I mounted a scope on with a see through mount that was too high. i adjusted the scope to the max, and still could't correct enough for elevation. I cut some shims from an aluminum coke can , and added them between the bottom of the scope and the rear mount ring til I had raised the rear of the scope enough to get back in the range of the scope's adjustment. This might help you get your mosin back in the adjustment range of your scope. 8)
 
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