My Dad, sbroomheadsr, took our C-9's to Illinois with us. My grandpa lives in rural illinois so we knew we could safely shoot there. Had myriad great shots. After shooting we cleaned up our targets. We had a bottle of water sitting in a hole in a tree. There was water in the hole also. I managed to recover several damaged slug from the hole. After looking at the slug I realized that our problem wasn't with our aim, but with the ammo. No wonder we couldn't shoot 'straight.' Camera wouldn't focus on the dangum bullets so they are a little fuzzy.