UPDATE: Ok, I finnaly got some time to work on the quad rail concept. I wanted to make some basic changes from the last design: 1. Make rails shorter 2. Increas thickness of top rail (rigidity) Here it is: ... personally, I like it. All there is to do now is cut one more mount to test the feel and make an aluminum prototype for me... and then, you know what. Now in order to stave off some of the atacks I'll post some well know oppinions and this way we dont have to fill this thread with clutter: GLOCKMAN: I know your going wait untill hi point come out with their stock. That is all.