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Rush is an overweight drug addict who needs to shut it. And that's BEFORE I get to the Obama thing... I just have no respect for an addict period. It's the reason why I still have issues with Robert Downey Jr films: He's quite the talented man but he's going to have to work 10x harder to earn that respect. Rush doesn't even have talent on his side to win respect...

But anyways, onto the topic at hand:

I applaud Obama telling GM's CEO to GTFO. The American people are now investors in the firm, and he only provided the Vaporware of the Chevy Volt (a Hybrid that is practially a myth and won't be available till nearly 2011... a bit slow on the uptake... and the new Prius ALREADY exceeds the stats of the Volt NOW), and all the while Ford has a Hybrid sedan that is BIGGER that gets 44mpg that you can buy...NOW! They haven't provided a decent small car platform, they STILL keep making Hybrid SUV's when they CLEARLY can't be afforded by the middle class working public, nor are they wanted, and GM has YET to come to any kind of deal with the UAW that hasn't sent up another hailstorm of attacks from both sides. Yes, the UAW aren't being fair either, but compromise MUST be reached in these times, and GM should offer the olive branch to at least START the process. Ford's management was alot more flexible with the UAW, and that has proven itself. AND, GM is still clinging to Saturn, Buick and Hummer which are all dead brands. They are going no where yet they insist that there will be "buyers" for them. I think they should've liquidated Hummer and Buick and did what they could to keep Saab under their marque. GM NEEDS a luxury division that is more Euro-Centric than Cadilliac, and Saab was JUST the brand to keep GM's foothold in the UK.

We won't even GO into Chrysler.... They're kinda screwed until Fiat can get their cash into the deal. Once they do that, Chrysler will be able to strengthen their lines with Fiat small cars, elevate the Jeep nameplate and DUMP the SUV market.

Ford has been the ONLY company to present a viable gameplan and has been wiling to think outside of the box, FINALLY allowing their Euro-spec imports that are tiny, quick and miserly on fuel onto US shores, and they have taken bold efforts in engineering and styling that have given us underdogs like the Fusion Hybrid (with stats that even impress me).

I paid tax dollars to the bailout package, and I think I want a voice telling them how they should spend MY money!!! Obama said the obvious: You guys took bailout cash, yet you cannot produce a way to make that money back. You owe us now....so either man up, or get out of the way.

Funny thing is, the CEO is STILL getting over 20million in retirement cash. A car company so corrupt that they can't even fire a guy without losing cash. You KNOW the industry is in shambles.

Oh, and relating Obama to Hitler is just conservative scare tactics. Doesn't make anyone sound any more bright.
 

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Rush is an overweight drug addict who needs to shut it.
I love liberals... they are so open-minded and accepting of others.

The federal government has no business telling any company who they can or cannot have as CEO, just as they have no right using taxpayer monies to prop-up a private corporation. Waggoner should have just told Obama to go F himself and taken GM into bankruptcy proceedings, since that is what is going to happen anyway, unless the feds nationalize it (Socialism, here we come).
it was part of the deal, if GM took the money, they knew they need a viable plan in a certain ammount of time. Waggoner didn't follow the rules, and so he got canned. If he didn't want the Feds telling him to take a hike, he shouldn't have taken their money.

When you borrow money from a bank, you agree to their terms. If you fail to follow the terms, they get to do things to you that you may not think are right, (put you out on the street) but agreed to the terms when you took the money.
Exactly! Ford didn't take the cash, but still presented a plan for restructuring just in case they needed to, and theirs was viable. Then again, they took some BOLD moves while all GM did was blow smoke and kept parading the Chevy Volt concept car like it was some real-world car we could buy, instead of what it was: A test mule built on a glorified Malibu chassis with dummy insturments.

And, this isn't "socialism" (considering that most who throw that word around like an insult doesn't even know the actual mechanics of Socialism), this move was pure capitalism and the Feds are simply acting as investors. They didn't come in an "nationalize" the plants, they INVESTED in them, and the auto companies had choices other than federal money. Chrysler and GM took the fed money, Ford took another route and looked towards their UK division for inspiration and new capital.

And, right now, the ONLY American car I will buy is a Ford (but ironically one of the UK made ones: The Feista or Ka....)
 

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GM has made some nice vehicles. I do a lot of towing with my job, and the Duramax pulls very well. I have tried the Ford models... but the Chevy is a smooth ride. Hopefuly they (GM, not the Feds) can figure something out to keep in business. I will buy another Dmax here in a couple of years if they are still in business.
The problem is, the majority of the auto buying public don't buy trucks. Yes, the Duramax is a fine industrial truck... but GM has failed in compacts, their light sedan (the Cobalt) is a dismal engineering and ergonomic failure, the Aveo is a cheaply made rebadged Daewoo that just doesn't cut it (it's flimsy compared to their previous offerings in the US when they released cars under their own marque) and all they have for a serious hybrid are SUV's. The Chevy Volt is pure vaporware and propaganda. Ford said "You want a hybrid like the Prius? How about one that doesn't look like an egg and is larger?" and they produced! Chrysler is so far behind the game we won't even talk about them until Fiat gets in the game....

GM does make a nice truck, but I think many in the country or Rural areas forget that the Majority of the US population live in areas and have jobs that don't require a Truck and are wanting cars that get 30 to 50mpg. And, the US market is only ONE place... GM and Chrysler need to be viable in the rest of the world. This is no longer the 1950's where you can focus on your own country and that's it. Ford learned this and has become one of the most popular car makers in the UK and Europe as well as the US. GM COULD have done that by pumping more money into their Opel division and bringing some of those small quick cars to the US, but they didn't. That is showing to hurt them now. Even Chrysler has learned the value of those cars and has made serious concessions to get Fiat into partnership... and I think that's the smartest idea they've had yet.
 

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Rush is an overweight drug addict who needs to shut it. And that's BEFORE I get to the Obama thing... I just have no respect for an addict period. It's the reason why I still have issues with Robert Downey Jr films: He's quite the talented man but he's going to have to work 10x harder to earn that respect. Rush doesn't even have talent on his side to win respect...
I thought Liberals were supposed to accept others even with their faults :brow:...
You thought wrong.
No, I just have no sympathy for drug addicted failures who do not wish to change no matter what political bent they are
 
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