[SWAGA]

Today I decided not to buy the Tactical Gripmaster...with a laser.

Seriously it's a available product.
E-mail ended up in my junk box, I wonder why.
https://prohands.net/products/prohands-tactical

 

[ajole]

Silly.
EVERYTHING is better with a laser.

 

[adam01364]

The fingering looks akin to that for a brass instrument.

 

[Think1st]

I can see the value in it. The idea is to press each plunger, individually, without moving the laser excessively. That trains the stabilizer muscles and translates to better trigger finger and overall grip stability when firing a handgun, giving you better groups.

Would I buy it? No. I can do similar training by isolating my trigger finger movement and looking at movement around the base knuckle. I do it when I'm just sitting around waiting in a line, listening to presentations, or watching a movie. A few sets do wonders. I learned the trick from an instructor a couple decades ago, and I highly recommend it.

 

[undeRGRound]

I can see the value in it. The idea is to press each plunger, individually, without moving the laser excessively. That trains the stabilizer muscles and translates to better trigger finger and overall grip stability when firing a handgun, giving you better groups.

Would I buy it? No. I can do similar training by isolating my trigger finger movement and looking at movement around the base knuckle. I do it when I'm just sitting around waiting in a line, listening to presentations, or watching a movie. A few sets do wonders. I learned the trick from an instructor a couple decades ago, and I highly recommend it.

I smell an ARTICLE!!!

 

[Think1st]

I smell an ARTICLE!!!

It won't be a long article, undeRLawson.

 

[undeRGRound]

It won't be a long article, undeRLawson.

:rotfl:

At least you gave me Top Billing

 

[Chef Duane]

$34.95 plus tax and shipping for that ProHands thing. My wife just had hand surgery (no, not from smacking me..) and they gave her a big ol' lump of synthetic play-doh to squeeze for a half hour or so every evening as part of her physical therapy. When she's done with it I'll send it to you for only $24.95! Deal?

 

[SWAGA]

I can see the value in it. The idea is to press each plunger, individually, without moving the laser excessively. That trains the stabilizer muscles and translates to better trigger finger and overall grip stability when firing a handgun, giving you better groups.

Would I buy it? No. I can do similar training by isolating my trigger finger movement and looking at movement around the base knuckle. I do it when I'm just sitting around waiting in a line, listening to presentations, or watching a movie. A few sets do wonders. I learned the trick from an instructor a couple decades ago, and I highly recommend it.

This was supposed to be a humorous thread about all the tacticool bullshit that's out there.
Leave it up to you to Kirkefy it.

 

[TNTRAILERTRASH]

My wife just had hand surgery (no, not from smacking me..) and they gave her a big ol' lump of synthetic play-doh to squeeze for a half hour or so every evening as part of her physical therapy.

I only use organic gluten free non GMO Play-Doh.

 

[Think1st]

This was supposed to be a humorous thread about all the tacticool bullshit that's out there.
Leave it up to you to Kirkefy it.

Hey, it's not my fault you put something here that actually had a rational purpose. Next time, you need to put some of that wish.com body armor on here if you want something to mock properly. Even better, you can put a Tru Glo optic here. That'll get plenty of mockery.

 

[adam01364]

Even better, you can put a Tru Glo optic here.

Tru Glo? Isn't that the look on one's face after they've gotten lucky?

 

[lklawson]

I keep seeing night vision equipment getting less and less expensive. I've always thought it was cool and kinda wanted some but I just, literally, can't think of an actual excuse to buy some that passes even my low bar for "valid."

I've kinda been watching them get cheaper for the last decade or so. I think that I realized that they were going to become nearly commodity items when we went to the zoo and they had a bunch of them in the Bat House, then I bought a toy night vision scope for my son when he was 10 or something. I think the brand was "Spy Gear."

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[SWAGA]

Next time, you need to put some of that wish.com body armor

You know that Demolition Ranch tested one that stopped a .50 cal from about 20 yards?
Chinesium level VII

 

[lklawson]

You know that Demolition Ranch tested one that stopped a .50 cal from about 20 yards?
Chinesium level VII

I went deep down that rabbit hole of 'toobers testing out the WISH body armor. The short version is, if it's the steel armor, it's good. If it's the soft armor, hit-or-miss.

The longer version is usually along these lines:

Hi, we're the 'toob channel 'shoot'n stuff' and we wasted our money on this WISH steel plate. We know that it's no good garbage but we're going to shoot it anyway to prove that. Staring with the .22LR which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, so it stops the .22 but well, a harsh glare stops a 22. We'll shoot it with a 380, which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped the 380 but you know, if I was shot with a 380 and found out, I'd be mad at the guy. We'll shoot it with a 9mm, which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped a 9, you know, that's just a 9. We'll shoot it with a .45, which is a real man-stopper! <bang> Well, it stopped the 45 but, you know, it's fat, slow bullet, so that's to be expected. We'll shoot it with a .357, which can take any game in North America and will blow right through it! <bang> Well, it stopped the 357 but it's just a pistol round after all, we'll shot it with something "real" now, a 5.56, which is fast and high energy with a high sectional density and blows right through armor. <bang> Well, it stopped the 5.56, but that's a Poodle Shooter so no big deal. We'll shoot it with a .308, a real man's rifle cartridge, it'll blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped the 308 which surprised us a lot but now we're going to shoot it with a 12ga slug which is the closest thing you can get to artillery in the home and will blow right through it. <bang> Well, it stopped the 12ga. but only because we didn't shoot it enough with everything else. <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> Well, it stopped everything and shocked us. But you can't trust your life to this because it's cheap Chinesium WISH garbage and you should spend a lot of money to buy "reputable" armor from a dealer.
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Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[lklawson]

I went deep down that rabbit hole of 'toobers testing out the WISH body armor. The short version is, if it's the steel armor, it's good. If it's the soft armor, hit-or-miss.

The longer version is usually along these lines:

Hi, we're the 'toob channel 'shoot'n stuff' and we wasted our money on this WISH steel plate. We know that it's no good garbage but we're going to shoot it anyway to prove that. Staring with the .22LR which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, so it stops the .22 but well, a harsh glare stops a 22. We'll shoot it with a 380, which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped the 380 but you know, if I was shot with a 380 and found out, I'd be mad at the guy. We'll shoot it with a 9mm, which will blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped a 9, you know, that's just a 9. We'll shoot it with a .45, which is a real man-stopper! <bang> Well, it stopped the 45 but, you know, it's fat, slow bullet, so that's to be expected. We'll shoot it with a .357, which can take any game in North America and will blow right through it! <bang> Well, it stopped the 357 but it's just a pistol round after all, we'll shot it with something "real" now, a 5.56, which is fast and high energy with a high sectional density and blows right through armor. <bang> Well, it stopped the 5.56, but that's a Poodle Shooter so no big deal. We'll shoot it with a .308, a real man's rifle cartridge, it'll blow right through it. <bang> OK, it stopped the 308 which surprised us a lot but now we're going to shoot it with a 12ga slug which is the closest thing you can get to artillery in the home and will blow right through it. <bang> Well, it stopped the 12ga. but only because we didn't shoot it enough with everything else. <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> <bang> Well, it stopped everything and shocked us. But you can't trust your life to this because it's cheap Chinesium WISH garbage and you should spend a lot of money to buy "reputable" armor from a dealer.
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Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Here's an example of what I mean (embedded yootoob):

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[undeRGRound]

I went deep down that rabbit hole of 'toobers testing out the WISH body armor. The short version is, if it's the steel armor, it's good. If it's the soft armor, hit-or-miss.

The longer version is usually along these lines:

Well, it stopped everything and shocked us. But you can't trust your life to this because it's cheap Chinesium WISH garbage and you should spend a lot of money to buy "reputable" armor from a dealer.
​

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But you can't trust your life to this because it's cheap Chinesium WISH garbage and they always send a good product to testers, and early adoptersm in order to hook the American Buyers then the next million orders are defective,

RE: Covid Masks

 

[Think1st]

Tru Glo? Isn't that the look on one's face after they've gotten lucky?

I think they call that "after" glow...

But as far as Try Glo goes, I bought one of their "tactical" 4x scopes for a rifle, and the groups with my iron sights were better than the groups with the scope. The scope was secure in the rings, and the base was properly tightened onto the rail, so none of those factors applied. The issue was with the reticule inside the housing. I knew there might be problems when I could feel play within each click of the adjustment knobs. If there's play in thr knobs, then there'll be play in the reticule. I'll never buy another one of their products again.

 

[Think1st]

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But you can't trust your life to this because it's cheap Chinesium WISH garbage and they always send a good product to testers, and early adoptersm in order to hook the American Buyers then the next million orders are defective,

RE: Covid Masks

That's the problem with any kind of armor from a less-than-reputable manufacturer. One steel plate might be the bomb-diggity, but the next might be crap because of inconsistent manufacturing and little or no quality control.

 

[lklawson]

That's the problem with any kind of armor from a less-than-reputable manufacturer. One steel plate might be the bomb-diggity, but the next might be crap because of inconsistent manufacturing and little or no quality control.

Fair enough. I've looked for reviews of these Chinesium WISH steel plates that failed to stop what they claimed they were rated for. I couldn't find them. There were several that after the plate was beat up bad it eventually failed, or it failed to stop stuff it wasn't rated for. But after watching dozens of them, I didn't see any "reviews" <cough> that showed the plate failing to stop what they claimed it was rated for.

Conversely, there was apparently some soft armor that might fail. There was also a lot of soft or semi-rigid armor that didn't have any specific claims about what it would or would not stop which could fail at odd spots. I think Taofledermaus had a few of those "unrated" pads/whatevers. They'd stop some pistol and not others and were no good at rifle.

I mean, I'm as surprised as anyone else, to be honest. But it sure looks like the steel plates are actually pretty good. I, quite honestly, hate saying that. I don't really want to defend them. But I really need to be honest. And, as honest as I can be, from what I've been able to find, those cheap Chinesium steel plates apparently work as claimed.

But if you have a review you can show me where one of those WISH steel plates fails to stop what they claim it stops I really would like to see it. I'd find it comforting and validating.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk