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    Civil War cannonball kills Virginia relic collector

    From Associated Press
    May 02, 2008 1:07 PM EDT

    CHESTER, Va. - Like many boys in the South, Sam White got hooked on the Civil War early, digging up rusting bullets and military buttons in the battle-scarred earth of his hometown.

    As an adult, he crisscrossed the Virginia countryside in search of wartime relics - weapons, battle flags, even artillery shells buried in the red clay. He sometimes put on diving gear to feel for treasures hidden in the black muck of river bottoms.

    But in February, White's hobby cost him his life: A cannonball he was restoring exploded, killing him in his driveway.

    More than 140 years after Lee surrendered to Grant, the cannonball was still powerful enough to send a chunk of shrapnel through the front porch of a house a quarter-mile from White's home in this leafy Richmond suburb.

    White's death shook the close-knit fraternity of relic collectors and raised concerns about the dangers of other Civil War munitions that lay buried beneath old battlefields. Explosives experts said the fatal blast defied extraordinary odds.

    "You can't drop these things on the ground and make them go off," said retired Col. John F. Biemeck, formerly of the Army Ordnance Corps.

    White, 53, was one of thousands of hobbyists who comb former battlegrounds for artifacts using metal detectors, pickaxes, shovels and trowels.

    "There just aren't many areas in the South in which battlefields aren't located. They're literally under your feet," said Harry Ridgeway, a former relic hunter who has amassed a vast collection. "It's just a huge thrill to pull even a mundane relic out of the ground."

    After growing up in Petersburg, White went to college, served on his local police force, then worked for 25 years as a deliveryman for UPS. He retired in 1998 and devoted most of his time to relic hunting.

    He was an avid reader, a Civil War raconteur and an amateur historian who watched History Channel programs over and over, to the mild annoyance of his wife.

    "I used to laugh at him and say, 'Why do you watch this? You know how it turned out. It's not going to be any different,'" Brenda White said.

    She didn't share her husband's devotion, but she was understanding of his interest.

    "True relic hunters who have this passion, they don't live that way vicariously, like if you were a sports fanatic," she said. "Finding a treasure is their touchdown, even if it's two, three bullets."

    Union and Confederate troops lobbed an estimated 1.5 million artillery shells and cannonballs at each other from 1861 to 1865. As many as one in five were duds.

    Some of the weapons remain buried in the ground or river bottoms. In late March, a 44-pound, 8-inch mortar shell was uncovered at Petersburg National Battlefield, the site of an epic 292-day battle. The shell was taken to the city landfill and detonated.

    Black powder provided the destructive force for cannonballs and artillery shells. The combination of sulfur, potassium nitrate and finely ground charcoal requires a high temperature - 572 degrees Fahrenheit - and friction to ignite.

    White estimated he had worked on about 1,600 shells for collectors and museums. On the day he died, he had 18 cannonballs lined up in his driveway to restore.

    White's efforts seldom raised safety concerns. His wife and son Travis sometimes stood in the driveway as he worked.

    "Sam knew his stuff, no doubt about it," said Jimmy Blankenship, historian-curator at the Petersburg battleground. "He did know Civil War ordnance."

    An investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms will not be complete until the end of May, but police who responded to the blast and examined shrapnel concluded that it came from a Civil War explosive.

    Experts suspect White was killed while trying to disarm a 9-inch, 75-pound naval cannonball, a particularly potent explosive with a more complex fuse and many times the destructive power of those used by infantry artillery.

    Biemeck and Peter George, co-author of a book on Civil War ordnance, believe White was using either a drill or a grinder attached to a drill to remove grit from the cannonball, causing a shower of sparks.

    Because of the fuse design, it may have appeared as though the weapon's powder had already been removed, leading even a veteran like White to conclude mistakenly that the ball was inert.

    The weapon also had to be waterproof because it was designed to skip over the water at 600 mph to strike at the waterline of an enemy ship. The protection against moisture meant the ball could have remained potent longer than an infantry shell.

    Brenda White is convinced her husband was working on a flawed cannonball, and no amount of caution could have prevented his death.

    "He had already disarmed the shell," she said. "From what I was told, there was absolutely nothing he had done wrong, that there was a manufacturing defect that no one would have known was there."

    After White's death, about two dozen homes were evacuated for two days while explosives experts collected pieces from his collection and detonated them.

    Today, there is little evidence of the Feb. 18 blast. The garage where White did most of his work is still crammed with his discoveries, many painstakingly restored and mounted. Rusted horseshoes are piled high in the crook of a small tree.

    White's digging partner, Fred Lange, hasn't had the heart to return to his relic hunting.

    "I truly miss him," Lange said. "Not a day that goes by that I don't think of him."
  2. Sad but he went out doing something he enjoyed. It is just so hard to believe that one could fire off a round and it kill someone a century and a half after it was fired.

    And, this just can't be right:

    That number has got to an order of magnitude or more larger.

  3. Ari

    Ari Guest

    It is always a concern to me. Seeing those Russians digging in fields pulling up all sorts (youtube) of stuff and then just tossing it around I keep waiting for one to go off. But it is pretty rare one does... But I can see them put the kibosh on the collecting now. :cry:
  4. Honeslty Ari, I doubt they can do that. How are you going to stop thousands of people from going out in the woods with a metal detector? They may try to restrict it as far as the munitions, but other than that, I doubt they will restrict relic hunting in any way.

    Sad to hear that he was killed, but as NDS said, he punched his ticket while doing something he truly loved. Rest in Peace.
  5. hero_saku39

    hero_saku39 Guest

    Have you ever read through all of the Darwin Awards and nominations?
  6. He did go out with a

    Sorry I just had to.
    I would rather go that way than so many I know have.
  7. AndrewST

    AndrewST Guest

    I consider myself to be an intelligent person, as do others. However I at the moment feel like a moron....

    I didn't know cannon balls had powder in them and acted like a bomb. I honest to god believed cannon balls were solid steel and the force they were shot at was enough to do the damage.

    I'll be damned...they had a fuse and actually exploded!!!
  8. Don't feel bad...I didn't know they made cannonballs of that type then either.
  9. The fuse was ignited when the cannon fired.The History channel,or The discovery channel.Can't remember which one I saw it on.
  10. AndrewST

    AndrewST Guest

    When I watch TV the only channels I tend to watch are Nat Geo, History, Discovery, Science, Military. Yet I managed to miss this information.....
  11. Yeah even back then they were messing with airburst shells that would rain shrapnel on the attacting troops.

    I tend to look at people from that far back as not much more evolved than a caveman, but they had nuts and wrenches and everything!
  12. Well then that makes 3 of us because I had no idea the exploded like that. I thought they were all like that one in The Patriot taking out legs and stuff.
  13. herrmannek

    herrmannek Guest

    New meaning of the slow fuse :) And another one: Considering that those collectors often pick their sides of the conflict. I'm really curious if it was a blue-on-blue or a scored hit :) Sorry couldn't resist.... Anyway if you like to dig old stuff , just make yourself sure its safe to hang over the fireplace and stay safe...