which 22 pistol to get?

the beretta is 5x the gun the phoenix is. id go beretta. also dont count out teh walther guns as well. the P22 and SP22 are good range guns as well.

SW

p22's are in the $350 range a little high for what i want

I'd gp with the Beretta as well. I hear that they are great plinkers, the only negative I've heard is that they look like a space gun.

As I told someone else. these mouse guns are more niche guns, they are good when you can find a great deal on them.I rarely see any used Raven arms .22's on the market though (like HP). This says good good things about a weapon IMO.

Buckmark....

i would stay away from the walther p22. its a POS made of cheap pot metal. I had one that the slide split into on while shooting it. come on the slide should be the toughest part of a damn pistol other than the chamber area. If I were you id look for a used ruger MK 2 they are super sweet guns a pain to take down and clean but super reliable and accurate. i have a MK 1 but they have the mag relase at the bottom of the grip and its kinda a pain the Mk 2 has a normal mag relase button. the neos is ok but the ruger will shoot rings around it.

I bought my wife a 4.5" Neos and she hadn't shot in over 16 years. First time out she shot 10 rounds at 12 yards in a silver dollar group using Fed bulk first time out. Using standard pressure bulk ammo will make most autos hiccup like crazy also so thats a plus. It came with two of the best designed mags i've ever seen. The only issue I've found is that you have to make sure the mags FIRMLY seat all the way, but it is still pretty new so maybe it'll break in. For taget shooting the rail will come in handy too. X

So far my favorite .22 pistol to shoot is my Ruger MKIII 22/45 Hunter. I've never shot a Buckmark but I hear they are great also.

A friend of mine had a Walther P22, it was fun to shoot but it wasn't as accurate and it seemed to jam a bit more than it should with the cheap ammo.

The only experience I had with the Neos was not a good one. It wasn't my gun though, so I don't know how much care (or lack thereof) it was given. From 15 yards it was difficult to hit a 6" target reliably. It also jammed 2 to 3 times per magazine. It wasn't a good experience, but it wasn't my gun so there are a lot of factors that I don't know about.

i would stay away from the walther p22. its a POS made of cheap pot metal. I had one that the slide split into on while shooting it. come on the slide should be the toughest part of a damn pistol other than the chamber area. If I were you id look for a used ruger MK 2 they are super sweet guns a pain to take down and clean but super reliable and accurate. i have a MK 1 but they have the mag relase at the bottom of the grip and its kinda a pain the Mk 2 has a normal mag relase button. the neos is ok but the ruger will shoot rings around it.

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pics or BS.

my P22 has over 17,000 rounds though it with no major failres. the only parts ive replaced were the front sight broken my own stupididty and the recoil spring strted getting weak at about 12k.

SW

I forgot to mention that part about the front sight seems to be somewhat easy to break on the P22. My buddy's front sight came off also.

I dunno about splitting and whatnot though, it seemed to be a well built pistol.

someone on arfcom posted one that had split but it was later proven to be an "assisted" break by the company. gee where have we seen THAT before........

SW

I have a Ruger MK1 (early) and a P22. I shoot the P22 more. They should be less than $300 for one. I picked up mine in a pawn shop. Almost new with what looks like few rounds through it. I had the trigger ears cleaned up to prevent wear in the zinc slide (common problem). Smith warranties it from what I hear no questions asked. Kinda like HP. I just picked up a compensator for the barrel (not that it needs it) and a viridian green laser.

See the P22 bible for info on mods. Look www.Rimfirecentral.com in the walther section.

someone on arfcom posted one that had split but it was later proven to be an "assisted" break by the company. gee where have we seen THAT before........

SW

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Indeed...too bad not all of us gun owners can like all guns as long as they work instead of setting up failures to make company X look worse than company Y.

the 1911 koolaid drinkers are notorious for behavior like this with glocks and other polymer pistols.

SW

+1 for P22. Had mine for over a year now. No problems. No matter what else I take to the range, the P22 always goes.

Buzz

The problems I had with my P22 weren't structure related. I had multiple FTExtract, FTFeed etc,... even after changing the extractor to the new design. I also had a fairly early model that according to the guys over on Rimfire Central, was prone to these things. Later models have had nothing but good reports.

My personal experience just put a bad taste in my mouth for them. When it did work, it worked fine and was an awesome gun to "play" with at the range.

I want a Ruger 22/45,...

Don't forget the Sig 22 too. That should be in your price range too. Looks good, but that is all I know about it.

SIg mosquitos are pretty good but suffer from some feeding issues that may require tweaking. past that they seem to be good overall guns if a bit pricey, but thats SIG for ya.

SW

You can get a brand new Beretta Neo's for the price of used P22.

I think he was asking which .22 to get not whether P22's are reliable.

i would stay away from the walther p22. its a POS made of cheap pot metal. I had one that the slide split into on while shooting it. come on the slide should be the toughest part of a damn pistol other than the chamber area. If I were you id look for a used ruger MK 2 they are super sweet guns a pain to take down and clean but super reliable and accurate. i have a MK 1 but they have the mag relase at the bottom of the grip and its kinda a pain the Mk 2 has a normal mag relase button. the neos is ok but the ruger will shoot rings around it.

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first choice would be the Ruger MKII, older model..for 10 bux you can get the extended "lipped" mag release from rimfiresports.com and you will be saying why doesn't Ruger do this stock, amazing. there are a plethora of accessories for it. second choice is the buckmark, i have the camper, great gun, lots of extra stuff for it, tacsol makes uppers and barrels for each that improve the weapon by far, IMO, but they are great out of the box. can't go wrong with either, time tested..