Until a few days ago I was not aware of Hi-Point firearms at all. I had admired the, long ago dropped, Marlin Camp Carbines. I'm a 61 year old shooter, that, by the time I was 14, was handloading (under my dad's strict supervision) ammuntion in .243 Winchester, and was able to take my rifle and ammo to the range and shoot dime sized groups. The gun was a Tradewinds/Husquevarna bolt action. Bought my first handgun at 21, and it was a Dan Wesson .357 magnum revolver, that I wore out testing heavy loads when I was competing in IHMSA 200 meter handgun competition, and NRA Hunter Pistol, and some bowling pin matches. I had to use that old Dan Wesson on my 22nd birthday (Nov 1st, 1975) when a looney decided it was a good idea to smash his way into my rental house about 10:30 pm. And, no, I didn't have to shoot him, or even fire the gun. Just getting the drop on him and aiming it at his ugly face and holdiong him for the police was enough. Fast forward a bunch of years, and here's me with my crappy 61 year old eyesight. I had sold most of my firearms when we moved to the big island of Hawaii in 2011. Haven't shot my smokeless firearms since. But I have air rifles and pistols I keep myself active in shooting those. Now, I hear about the Hi-Point carbines, and got an interest in them. I do have a Colt .45acp already. I sold off any reloading dies in calibers I don't have any more, so do not have 9mm dies. I'm considering buying one of these carbines, in either 9mm or .45acp. I've been watching youtube videos, and, an I wrong in thinking the 9mm may have a bit of an edge in accuracy? Not that that is a major issue. I view these carbines as short range (for a rifle) plinkers, and short range self defense SHTF guns. I've handloaded a ton of .357 magnum, .38 special, 32-20 (for a friend), 30-30 (for a 10" TC Contender that was my 200 meter IHMSA tack driver), some .45acp, and a small amount of 9mm. The 9mm would certainly be cheaper to shoot too. Maybe a few of you may own both carbines in 9mm and .45acp., and can comment on comparing them. I'll be reading a lot of threads here too in the meantime.