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Pretty slick... I scored as a conservative libertarian. Pretty accurate, I'd say.
 

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Libertarian.
 

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If you look at Orion's image, you see a triangle right above centris, inside Libertarian. If you move the red dot ONE triangle top left of dead center directly over centrast, that's where my libertarian dot was.

But I disagree. I think the point of the thing was to convince everyone they are libertarian. I thought about being libertarian, but I don't care that much about pot to focus my entire political system on it... :devilsidesmile: :devilsidesmile: :devilsidesmile:
 

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I don't put much faith in these "smallest" quizzes. sociopolitical persuasions are far too complex to discern with 5 or 10 questions
 

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Really only needed one question. Do you believe the constitution must be protected from all enemies foreign and domestic?

Yeah its a pretty obvious attempt to route you to Libertarians. Now answer the question "Should the US borders be open to any one wishing to enter?" and see the scores shift. Still dont understand the reasoning behind that part of the platform.
 

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Really only needed one question. Do you believe the constitution must be protected from all enemies foreign and domestic?

Yeah its a pretty obvious attempt to route you to Libertarians. Now answer the question "Should the US borders be open to any one wishing to enter?" and see the scores shift. Still dont understand the reasoning behind that part of the platform.
well, in theory, I agree with them. in practice however, it has been shown to be dangerous to the sovereignty and security of the States.
 

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Really only needed one question. Do you believe the constitution must be protected from all enemies foreign and domestic?

Yeah its a pretty obvious attempt to route you to Libertarians. Now answer the question "Should the US borders be open to any one wishing to enter?" and see the scores shift. Still dont understand the reasoning behind that part of the platform.
well, in theory, I agree with them. in practice however, it has been shown to be dangerous to the sovereignty and security of the States.
Its so obvious that I have to wonder how out of touch with reality the leadership of that party can be.

This reminds me of those that promoted unilateral disarmament of the US during the cold war.
 

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Its so obvious that I have to wonder how out of touch with reality the leadership of that party can be.

This reminds me of those that promoted unilateral disarmament of the US during the cold war.
well, you really need to remember one thing: true libertarian ideaology is virtually synonymous with anarchist ideaology. a true libertarian believes in virtually no government control of any kind. They believe that roads, utilities, emergency services etc. should all be privately owned. they further believe taht being privately owned, that government should have no say the private sector in any way. no regulations... nothing. it is in this "there is no government like no government" way of thinking where they believe that there shouldn't be any type of national boundaries.

Libertarians ( big L, the party) has many little "l" libertarians, but also constitutionalists, who believe in well defined, clear limitations to the fed, something that libertarians can agree with. strangely, folks like me and you are seen as "authoritarians" to the anarchist libertarians...

more and more, the party is gaining support among constitutionalists, true conservatives, Confederates, secessionists, etc.; basically, all those folks who have for so long been considered "fringe", but who are now finding common ground and a voice in a growing sea of discontent amongst those who are sick of teh duopoly catering to their "special interest groups", while ignoring the wishes of those who are supposed to be their constituents.
 

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Glenn Beck did a very good illustration during his comedy tour of the relationship between freedom and anarchy. Anarchy is not freedom, it mauls and abuses it, freedom thrives just out of reach of the anarchists. Our system was designed so that each state could choose its own destiny within limits set, even socialism and anarchy could be allowed to seek its fortunes in the marketplace of ideas if the people of the state so desired. If a person was highly opposed to the running of the state there are 49 others to dwell. Of course matters that are clearly and wholly interstate by nature come under the powers delegated to the Feds such as immigration and the working affairs of the Federal government.

That is the ideal that has been forgotten. Why insist that all Americans must live under the same set of rules when it is that very impossibility that divides us so. What is acceptable in New England is contemptible in the South and silly for the West, the founders knew this and built it into the Constitution. The answer is so simple but it always has been ignored and will be now, much to our never ending harm.
 

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Rhodes, good point, but as unreconstructed and others will tell you, the ideal has rarely been realized in the US...Lincoln refused to let a LOT of states decide, Utah was forced to toe the line on their religious ideas about marriage...but now, apparently, gambling, guns, and pot are the ways states are exercising their sovereignty? Strange, to say the least... :blink:
 

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Dark times in any war, even those fought with ideas. I don't expect my position to ever be mainstream, I doubt it ever was but if enough bend in our direction just a bit more perhaps...

This is why some consider the American Revolution to be still going on. The War may have start and end dates assigned to it but the struggle has never ended.
 

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Glenn Beck did a very good illustration during his comedy tour of the relationship between freedom and anarchy. Anarchy is not freedom, it mauls and abuses it, freedom thrives just out of reach of the anarchists. Our system was designed so that each state could choose its own destiny within limits set, even socialism and anarchy could be allowed to seek its fortunes in the marketplace of ideas if the people of the state so desired.
you're preaching to the choir here. As I have said, there is a large difference between ideological libertarians, and those who identify with the political party of the same name.

Regarding your statements on States' rights, I agree again. A lot of people forget that originally, the constitution wasn't meant to be a replacement for the Articles of Confederation, but a refinement.

originally, the Convention was called in order to strengthen the Articles, but the Federalists wanted a system closer to the might of the British crown that they had recently escaped. when their efforts at the convention failed, they attempted incremental abuse(a national bank, the Alien and sedition acts, etc.)

Eventually, the Whigs ( political successors to the Federalist party) forged their theory of "The American system", proposed by Daniel Webster, and Championed by Henry Clay ( as well as John C. Calhoun, who later realized the folly of the doctrine and became a vocal proponent of States Rights) the idea was passed on to Lincoln by his mentor, the aforementioned Clay.

by the time of the secession crisis, Lincoln saw the opportunity to finally fully realize his parties ultimate goal. As I have said many, many times before, on April 9th, 1865, The American Republic as it was intended was laid to rest along with the hopes of Independence for the Confederate States of America. While the ember of States rights smoldered for some time afterwards by the Democratic party ( original successors to the Anti-Federalist party), 19th century political movements, including socialism and marxism, corrupted that party as well.

ever since Lincoln, EVERY PRESIDENT, including Reagan, has further abused and corrupted the power of the office, and of the Republic.
 

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Glenn Beck did a very good illustration during his comedy tour of the relationship between freedom and anarchy. Anarchy is not freedom, it mauls and abuses it, freedom thrives just out of reach of the anarchists. Our system was designed so that each state could choose its own destiny within limits set, even socialism and anarchy could be allowed to seek its fortunes in the marketplace of ideas if the people of the state so desired.
you're preaching to the choir here. As I have said, there is a large difference between ideological libertarians, and those who identify with the political party of the same name.

Regarding your statements on States' rights, I agree again. A lot of people forget that originally, the constitution wasn't meant to be a replacement for the Articles of Confederation, but a refinement.

originally, the Convention was called in order to strengthen the Articles, but the Federalists wanted a system closer to the might of the British crown that they had recently escaped. when their efforts at the convention failed, they attempted incremental abuse(a national bank, the Alien and sedition acts, etc.)

Eventually, the Whigs ( political successors to the Federalist party) forged their theory of "The American system", proposed by Daniel Webster, and Championed by Henry Clay ( as well as John C. Calhoun, who later realized the folly of the doctrine and became a vocal proponent of States Rights) the idea was passed on to Lincoln by his mentor, the aforementioned Clay.

by the time of the secession crisis, Lincoln saw the opportunity to finally fully realize his parties ultimate goal. As I have said many, many times before, on April 9th, 1865, The American Republic as it was intended was laid to rest along with the hopes of Independence for the Confederate States of America. While the ember of States rights smoldered for some time afterwards by the Democratic party ( original successors to the Anti-Federalist party), 19th century political movements, including socialism and marxism, corrupted that party as well.

ever since Lincoln, EVERY PRESIDENT, including Reagan, has further abused and corrupted the power of the office, and of the Republic.
Well laid out. Reagan was no Jefferson that is true. It is only when compared to those that have followed that his actions seem worthy of nostalgia, they have been so corrupt it defies logic it was tolerated.

The republic can tolerate some abuse if its corrected and set back on course. The correction coming is going to have be large indeed but it doesn't have to be made all at once it would be foolish to expect such a turn around. I hope that God helps us, I would hate to be in this without him.
 

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The republic can tolerate some abuse if its corrected and set back on course. The correction coming is going to have be large indeed but it doesn't have to be made all at once it would be foolish to expect such a turn around. I hope that God helps us, I would hate to be in this without him.
well, God and Sam Colt anyway....
 

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But of course.
 
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