[waltham41]

Do you have any weapons around your son, and if so does she know?

That would be the only think I would really be worried about. Everything else is your business like the posters above said.

 

[waltham41]

That is what I was wondering.

The problem is that the child is hers too, and if she raised hell about you having weapons around the child or something similar, it may cause trouble for you especially if she got you in front of a gun hating judge.

I suppose a lot depends on whether your divorce was a friendly one, or her attitude to firearms.

I have a couple of friends that their ex's dont even want them taking their sons fishing because they know that would make the guys happy, you know?

Good luck!

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[waltham41]

He's YOUR kid too though. You don't need her permission to teach your son to shoot. It's really none of her damn business if you have a CWP, even IF you carry on her property (which you don't). Unless the laws in your state say that you have to inform someone when you're on their property, then just keep your mouth shut.

And teach that boy to shoot.

So I understand that is ok for her to pierce the boys nipples and have tatoos put on him, and let him do drugs, since the child is hers too? (Just examples, I know it would be against the law for the tattoos and drugs at least)

When you are divorced, in most instances it becomes a game, and you have to play the game well or loose.

Right now I know of at least 3 nasty divorces where the parents constantly are in court fighting about what was done or not done to their child by the other spouse.

In a perfect world, it would be your right to do what you want with the time you spend with your child, but in the real world be prepared to have your butt hauled into court while the ex spouse tries to use your actions against you to change visitation rights or get more money from you.

 

[waltham41]

Yeah, pretty much, if he wants to let the kid do something that's NOT illegal, it's his right to do so. Be it getting a purple mowhawk, taking him sky diving, taking him to a different church, giving him different POV on political issues, talking to him about sex, drugs, alcohol, and smoking; or teaching the boy to shoot a .22.

If momma don't like it, TDB!

You obviously don't get it and don't seem to have any intention of trying to.

Just because two people are no longer married, doesn't mean they don't have a moral responsibility to communicate with each other about the upbringing of their child(ren). Fortunately for me, after my divorce the ex and I were able to work togther when it came to our son. Even though he lived with me 1,500 miles away from her, we still talked about things that directly concerned him, or at least he would run things past her before just going out and doing them. It all depended on what the subject and the importance of that subject was.

Before he got his green Mohawk at the age of 13, she knew about it. Before his ear was pierced at the age of 16, she knew about it. Hell, before he got his first tatoo at the age of 18, she knew about it. By his choice, as a man.

Unfortunately, guns in our society are a touchy issue. Not everyone is enlightened and believes in the Second Ammendment. More importantly, if this woman is looking for a way to cause problems, this might very well be the way to do so.

As he said, the kid knows his mom and he's on the QT with the gun info. There's probably a good reason for that. And if she ever finds out, then she has two beefs when she goes to the judge. #1, he didn't tell her he was carrying around the kid and #2, the kid knew so he was having him keep secrets from her. My understanding is that family court doesn't like that.

His best bet, as expensive as it may be, is to contact a lawyer that specializes in family matters and see what they think. That way he can make an informed decision based on the law. Alternately, he should just tell her and see what happens. She might be cool with it. What he should not do under any circumstances is listen to the uninformed opinion of someone like you.

Have a nice day.

You're right, I "just don't get get it". You're sooooooo much more enlightened than me.

I am not a lawyer, but neither are you, hotshot, so your opinion on this matter holds no more water than my own. Kindly spare me the sanctimony. :roll:

One has moral obligation to do what he feels is right by one's kids. If Momma's gonna be immature, or try and make your son's life more difficult, you're not obligated to allow that, simply cause, "well, it's her kid too", or because you're scared that she might try and make your life tough too. That's the very definition of cowardice!

If there's something that you feel your child should be learning, that he's not, you have a right--nay, an OBLIGATION--to teach that to your child. Teaching a child to safely handle a firearm is, in my opinion, as important as teaching a child fire safety, or how to properly cross the street.

Maybe the OP doesn't feel the same way. Maybe he just views it as something that might be fun for the kid. In that case, then yes, perhaps that would be better done with Momma's 'permission'. But if, like me, he feels that this is something that his son SHOULD be learning, then he has a moral obligation to see that his son does so.

As far as the concealed carry goes, protecting your child is, without question, a moral responsibility that requires absolutely ZERO permission from ANYBODY!

I won't even waste my time trying to explain that one to you though...

In a perfect world I may agree with you, but this is far from a perfect world.

Mom drags your butt in front of a judge with a good lawyer, and your speech wont carry much water, IMO. Sorry.

 

[waltham41]

Unfortunately, it seems that everyone I know has kids and are divorced, even my live in ex wife had had to go to court numerous times over a ex being a butt hole with a shared custody kid.

He manipulated the court system and even had them trying to collect child support from her and she didn't have a job and is disabled!

Its not easy for anyone involved, especially when you have one or both spouses that are bitter and do everything they can to hurt or attack the other ex.

I know of one guy that stabbed his wife with a screwdriver in a fit of rage, assaulted the LEO that responded to the call, is a dopehead, and has the balls to have his drug dealer pick the kid up for his visitation.

But since he has money for a lawyer and the wife doesnt, guess who comes out smelling like a rose every time they go to court?



I know a woman that is seperated from her husband, he told her that he would kill her if she filed for a divorce, and she constantly comes home and finds her clothes cut to pieces all over her house.

His family is big in the hick town they live in, guess who is the bad person in that situation? Yep, she is.

If she did something with the kids he did not agree with and survived, she would be dragged into court and punished, I have no doubt of that.

Both of my brothers and the only real friend I have are all in the same boat. Different stories, same results.



Life really stinks sometime, and I hate to say it, but sometimes I am glad that I never had any childres of my own, because I might be in the same boat as the other people that I know.

There is a perfect world where everything turns out like it should, and is fair, and then there is the real world where people get the shaft all of the time.

(rant off)