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What popup sight will work?

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#1 ·
I bought a red dot and it won't fit on the rail with the iron sights. I want to use the red dot, cowitnessed with the front iron sight. I also want to have a popup sight for the rear if my battery dies in my red dot. Has anyone bought one that works on the stock rail and lines up with the front sight? I have looked and found a few different heights so I am not sure what size to buy. Sorry for the page long post and I searched but didn't find any info. Thanks.
 
#4 ·
The height of the stock peep sight is about 7/8" the shortest flip up sight I've ever seen is just under 1.5" from the rail to the peep. The front sight on the carbines just don't have that much room to adjust. Here are 5 suggestions off the top of my head in no particular order.

Option #1. Full length rail and matching pair of flip up sights.

Option #2. Take that red dot back and get a smaller one that does fit in front of the peep sight.

Option #3. Make a custom 5/8-3/4" taller front sight.

Option #4. **cheapest/easiest** Cut the part of the frame on the stock peep sight that keeps the red dot from mounting and go over the unfinished edge with a sharpie to match the rest of the carbine.

Option #5. Get a 45 degree offset mount and put that red dot over to the side 3-GUN style!
 
#6 ·
I went with extending the top rail with a spare piece of another top rail I had layin around, then added a set of magpul flip ups. Looks great and does what they're suppose to. There are a couple pics in the favorite carbine pics section I think on or around page 116. Let me know if you find them.
 
#7 ·
I mounted my red dot sight ahead of the standard sight, without any modifications, using a pair of UTG 1/2" risers (the sight will fit on a single three slot riser, but I wanted the extra length, if needed). If the red dot craps out, I can quickly pull it off and use the standard sights.

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#8 ·
zombiekiller said:
Option #1. Full length rail and matching pair of flip up sights.

Option #2. Take that red dot back and get a smaller one that does fit in front of the peep sight.

Option #3. Make a custom 5/8-3/4" taller front sight.

Option #4. **cheapest/easiest** Cut the part of the frame on the stock peep sight that keeps the red dot from mounting and go over the unfinished edge with a sharpie to match the rest of the carbine.

Option #5. Get a 45 degree offset mount and put that red dot over to the side 3-GUN style!
#1: I am considering the full length rail
#2: I bought red dot on clearance and can't return it
#3: I am not interested in making a sight until all other options are tried and fail
#4: I already cut the peep and it still won't fit
#5: I may get a offset mount if all else fails

Thanks.
 
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#15 ·
Can't say I even like the looks of it. And for a fifty? No thanks.
Well, for someone who would like to use an optic as their primary sight, but would also like to have a flip-up sight(s) should said optic fail, it seems like one of the more cost-effective routes. My original plan was to buy the $66 BRIGHT, obnoxious chrome top rail on ebay, then have to purchase both front and rear flip-up sights. If I go with the front sight from the link I posted, then I'd only have to buy the rear BUIS.

I guess I was just hoping someone else on the board had already dropped that fifty :p and could report back on their experience. Looks like I may have to be the guinea pig...
 
#17 ·
If you don't mind me asking, what about it looks suspect to you?
Actually, the side-profile shape. It's just not appealing to my eye, at all.

I'm also not a believer that I would ever use this gun for anything other that a plinker. I'm never going to go to battle with it. I'm never going to work any Special Ops with it. And if the battery wears out on my red dot at the range, I'll pick up a different gun and start shooting that. YMMV.

I'm pretty sure I have more rounds through my 995 than 90% of the people on this forum and the factory sights, or the recently added red dot, have never failed me. The only reason I'm leaning towards optics now is because my aging eyes are having more difficulty focusing on the front sight post.

P.S. My round count is 9,000+ now, and it has been factory rebuilt once.
 
#18 ·
Actually, the side-profile shape. It's just not appealing to my eye, at all.

I'm also not a believer that I would ever use this gun for anything other that a plinker. I'm never going to go to battle with it. I'm never going to work any Special Ops with it. And if the battery wears out on my red dot at the range, I'll pick up a different gun and start shooting that. YMMV.

I'm pretty sure I have more rounds through my 995 than 90% of the people on this forum and the factory sights, or the recently added red dot, have never failed me. The only reason I'm leaning towards optics now is because my aging eyes are having more difficulty focusing on the front sight post.

P.S. My round count is 9,000+ now, and it has been factory rebuilt once.
Fair enough! I never plan to go to battle with any of my rifles either. However, with the current state of affairs in the world, I suppose I simply feel "better" knowing that my guns all function... with or without batteries. That's a whole other conversation though. I do appreciate the insight!
 
#19 ·
I simply feel "better" knowing that my guns all function... with or without batteries.
I agree. That's why I rarely use red dots, too many things can go wrong.;)
 
#21 ·
I agree. That's why I rarely use red dots, too many things can go wrong.;)
I agree. Dont get me wrong, I like red dot and relex sights, they are neat and great when they work. I say fine for use in competition shooting, plinking, and hunting. But I wouldnt want to have to depend on them in a defensive situation and have them not work when all hell breaks loose.
 
#22 ·
As long as you have a backup red dots are all right . Not having a back up just plain sucks. This is the main reason I hate the newer rifles. I can't count how many new hunting rifles I sold that come with a scope or where scope ready but did not have any iron sights.

Scenario: Your out hunting on a wet day it's before daybreak and your walking threw the woods to your favorite spot and you slip on a mossy rock,leaves,log and you go down hard. You stand up brush yourself off and recheck your gear. You notice your scope is broken. What do you do now? Your only options are to head home get a new scope go to the range site in again or give up the hunt.

This actually happened to me on the 2nd or 3rd day of my second year hunting and if it wasn't for my Grandpa lending me his 30-06 I would of missed the rifle season since I couldn't replace my scope. I got my fist deer that year and will never will never forget it. This is the number one reason I offer any rifle sold in my shop that comes without irons can have them installed for the at cost.
 
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#26 ·
So why not have both? Best of both worlds!

If you train, and are equally proficient working with both systems, then that puts you at an advantage... when defending yourself against all that paper. :p
LOVING it!:D